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eicke 06-17-2020 07:57 PM

Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

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For the Guru's........which direction do you install this sleeve? I should have paid attention when I removed it. Notice the offset in the spiral. Installing it either direction will pull oil back into the engine. Try'd that. Was going with a one piece seal and didn't like the sloppiness of the fit on the crankshaft. Decided to go old school and use the rope seal. BTW, 1950 8BA.









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eicke 06-17-2020 08:58 PM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

Not 100% on this but I believe the top on this pic goes IN towards the crankshaft/slingert.

eicke 06-18-2020 07:37 AM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

Anyone?

51 MERC-CT 06-18-2020 08:44 AM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

This is a bushing off of an unmolested/never rebuilt engine that shows the seal fully engaged with the spirals towards the front, not towards the crankshaft.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=42854
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=42855

eicke 06-18-2020 10:31 AM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

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This pic is from DIYFORD (H & H's Mike Herman doing the rebuild)

eicke 06-18-2020 10:37 AM

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And another from DYIFORD.com...……..(a little tough to see)

flatheadmurre 06-18-2020 11:35 AM

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That spiral is there to pull the oil back into the engine...no good if it stops in the middle of the rope seal...
Take a look at the early sheeves that has it built in if in doubt.
So spiral goes in towards gear.

19Fordy 06-18-2020 12:09 PM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

If the crank turns CW, doesn't the bushing have to be installed like 51MERC-CT shows so as to "spiral" the oil back towards the engine?

flatheadmurre 06-18-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 1900380)
If the crank turns CW, doesn't the bushing have to be installed like 51MERC-CT shows so as to "spiral" the oil back towards the engine?

Spiral dont care which way its installed...same as a bolt itīs either right or left hand...no matter if your turning the bolt or the nut...

eicke 06-18-2020 01:45 PM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

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Originally Posted by flatheadmurre (Post 1900384)
Spiral dont care which way its installed...same as a bolt itīs either right or left hand...no matter if your turning the bolt or the nut...

Yep....tried that. Either way the spiral would pull it back into the engine.

eicke 06-18-2020 01:50 PM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

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Originally Posted by flatheadmurre (Post 1900376)
That spiral is there to pull the oil back into the engine...no good if it stops in the middle of the rope seal...
Take a look at the early sheeves that has it built in if in doubt.
So spiral goes in towards gear.

I kinda agree, Mike Herman built 100's if not thousands of flatheads and putting on a sleeve backwards would be a rookie mistake which is possible but not likely.

Tony, NY 06-18-2020 03:59 PM

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I used a Speedi-Sleeve with the one piece seal.

deuce_roadster 06-18-2020 07:03 PM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

Put your thumbnail in the groove, view it from one end and turn it the way the crank shaft goes (Clockwise when viewed from the front) Which way does your thumbnail move? This will tell you what you want to know without looking at any pictures.

flatjack9 06-18-2020 08:11 PM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

In the picture in #1 post, the top side goes against the crank gear,

eicke 06-19-2020 09:22 PM

Re: Flathead Guru's...Question on installing the crankshaft sleeve
 

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Originally Posted by flatjack9 (Post 1900496)
In the picture in #1 post, the top side goes against the crank gear,

Thanks, That's the way I installed it. I've rebuilt quite a few motor and it's usually the little things that stump me.


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