Generator Question
 

I think that loose C clip (Red arrow) is contributing to the shaft play.
I removed the other C clip (Blue arrow) but can’t get the front plate (Green arrow) off.
Does something else have to be removed?


Thanks
Leo

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Looks like you've got it. The retaining plate is loose, and the c clip - blue arrow is off.
It will come apart

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Like GR said, looks like it should come apart.
It may help to set to set the cover on top of the vise jaws and tap down on the shaft [ put nut on shaft to end of threads]. They've been together for a long time and don't want to be split up.

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I would try a gear puller. If you tap on the end of the shaft use a thick piece of aluminum between the hammer and the shaft.

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The retainer clips do not hold the front plate in place. They hold the front bearing in place laterally on the armature shaft. The front plate fits over the outer diameter of the bearing and, sometimes, this is a close fit. If you carefully hit the entire outer circumference of back edge of the front plate, it should come lose from the bearing. After the front plate is off (and since you've already removed the retainer rings) the bearing can be carefully removed with a small gear puller or "bearing splitter". NOTE: The armature shaft is very soft. When using a puller always install the pulley bolt back in place and use it to center the center post (screw) of the puller. Otherwise, you risk the possibility of damaging the tapered end of the armature shaft that the pulley locates on. If that happens, the pulley will not center properly and will wobble.

Good Luck. Bob Bader

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Bob


Your saying that the outer circumference of the bearing is "stuck" to the inner depression surface of the front plate. Is that correct?
I sprayed that area with PB and will let it sit overnight.
Let's see.


Thanks
Leo

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Not really stuck ........... just a tight fit. If you take a small hammer and tap on the back face of the retainer plate. It should start to come loose. Tap at bottom of plate then at top of plate and it should start to move. But, if it’s real tight (or rust between the two surfaces tight) you’ll need to tap all around the circumference of the front plate. Patience, small ball peen hammer, and light to medium taps will win this race without damaging anything.

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Still working on this.
PB and tapping gently.

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Time for a puller, or time for a bigger hammer tapping lightly

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If you have the C-clips off, support the front plate and drive the armature out of the front bearing. There is nothing else holding the armature in place except that C-Clip. Use a block of wood to protect the tapered end of the armature.
Then you can address getting the bearing out of the end plate.

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I've had the front plate supported for a few days (left pic).
Can I use a deep socket, place it on the red circle in the right pic, and hammer gently?

If it takes me a week to do this, it would take me 100 years to restore a car.

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Tap the end of the shaft with a plastic hammer or use a piece of thick aluminum between the shaft and a steel hammer. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADjlhVcxzC0

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It looks like the plate is supported. Make sure there is couple inches under the end of the armature. As mentioned, install the bolt and drive the armature out.

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OOFA. Two weeks later and I finally got that plate off.
Referring to the pic, are those left-most 3 items unnecessary with a sealed bearing?

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you need all the pieces either way they take up space , both the original and the sealed bearing are the same size
guess the felt could be left out
the wave washer pushes against the front washer on one side the bearing on the other this keeps the bearing pushed against the rivited on plate