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Deuce-Addict 03-04-2021 08:15 AM

1932 Grill Shells, Inserts & Crankholes
 

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Not wishing to hi-jack the other '32 grill thread with a very specific question, am interested in the variants of original grill inserts and crankholes.


Aside from the two insert construction types, namely the one piece outer and the two piece - there look to be a number of different crankhole types, although not immediately obvious the pictures attached show various differences. Would love to see any other types and hope these are of interest to others. Keith

Deuce-Addict 03-04-2021 08:21 AM

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David R - hope you don't mind me putting the below link, covered on the update to David's superb books is the European grill insert with a chromed brass outer band on the two piece construction insert.


https://www.earlyfordv8.org/images/u...2021_final.pdf

DavidG 03-04-2021 08:32 AM

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Not at all; you always are a major contributor to expanding our knowledge of the variations in '32 Ford components.

deuce lover 03-04-2021 10:18 AM

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There is another other than what is pictured which is the stainless perimeter that is different.I don't have a pic but can attempt to make a drawing and post it if wanted.

rockfla 03-04-2021 10:23 AM

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I'll post my two when I get home from work!!!

DavidG 03-04-2021 10:24 AM

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The third of the five photos is of one with the all-stainless inner perimeter.

deuce lover 03-04-2021 11:13 AM

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Here is a pic ,its all SS also but the profile is different.Here is a pic of a rough drawing I made- not to scale. I have had 3 of these grilles.

Deuce-Addict 03-04-2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover (Post 1992195)
Here is a pic ,its all SS also bit the profile is different.Here is a pic of a rough drawing I made- not to scale. I have had 3 of these grilles.





How intriguing Sheldon, so the one piece stainless outer band has a step edge? Hard to photograph but my ones have a stainless edge much like the normal reproduction inserts as pics below. The grime between the bars and reflections in the stainless in my pics gives the appearance of a step but there isn't one, wraps around smoothly...

deuce lover 03-04-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deuce-Addict (Post 1992209)
How intriguing Sheldon, so the one piece stainless outer band has a step edge? Hard to photograph but my ones have a stainless edge much like the normal reproduction inserts as pics below. The grime between the bars and reflections in the stainless in my pics gives the appearance of a step but there isn't one, wraps around smoothly...


That is it !

rockfla 03-04-2021 01:16 PM

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The third of the five photos is of one with the all-stainless inner perimeter.

David
Where the vertical bars still steel?? Painted Grey???

DavidG 03-04-2021 02:01 PM

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Robert,


On all that I've encountered, yes.

I'm away from my junk at present, but my recollection of the several all-stainless steel inner perimeter ones that I have is that they are like Keith's and lack the indentation in Sheldon's sketch.

rockfla 03-04-2021 02:24 PM

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Thanks once again David!!!

DavidG 03-04-2021 04:25 PM

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Once again I err; I must have one given the photo below from the lower left hand corner of page 5-32 of the book.

rockfla 03-06-2021 06:44 PM

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Here are my two!!!

Deuce-Addict 03-08-2021 05:01 AM

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Robert - so interesting to see the variations, incredible how many there were for such a short production year. Below are the two types of stainless edge band that I have, is the stepped one like your old ones Sheldon?

deuce lover 03-08-2021 06:45 AM

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Yes Keith.The stepped one is just like the ones I had.One I found in France 30 yrs ago and the others in Calif years later.The one I found in France was missing the crank hole bezel and center bars missing also.The stainless outer was joined and welded behind where the crank hole bezel went.I sanded and polised the joint and installed repo bars(available then) and eliminated the crank hole bezel(which I did not have).

Deuce-Addict 03-08-2021 08:17 AM

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Yes Keith.The stepped one is just like the ones I had.One I found in France 30 yrs ago and the others in Calif years later.The one I found in France was missing the crank hole bezel and center bars missing also.The stainless outer was joined and welded behind where the crank hole bezel went.I sanded and polised the joint and installed repo bars(available then) and eliminated the crank hole bezel(which I did not have).





Thanks Sheldon. Reading David's book at the weekend, the ones like that with the step edge to the stainless are rare.

rockfla 03-08-2021 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce-Addict (Post 1993741)
Robert - so interesting to see the variations, incredible how many there were for such a short production year. Below are the two types of stainless edge band that I have, is the stepped one like your old ones Sheldon?

Keith
One of my crank hole surrounds is not very contoured (for lack of a better term). Unfortunately out of the two, its just a wall hanger, to far rusted to try and resurrect. And sorry for the sideways pictures, I don;t know why the Spy Phone loads them that way???

alchemy 03-08-2021 05:28 PM

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I've got a loose crankhole surround that is rusty steel. I always thought it was an old Argentina repro, but I see in Rockfla's pics that he has a chrome plated steel crankhole too. So, not all Ford crankholes were stainless?


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