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What can you folks tell me about this truck? It's obviously early-40s Ford stake-bed. But I don't recall hood vents like that or the V/8 stamped in the sheet metal rather than an applied badge.


https://photos.smugmug.com/USA/Calif...IMG_9844-L.jpg

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is it in the outback?

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1940 tonner.

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The truck is a 1940 model. While the 1941 Ford Trucks look similar, there are slight differences. For example, the picture of your truck shows a V8 pressed in to the sides of the Hood. This pressing was only on the 1940 models. That is because in 1941, Ford offered a Six Cylinder Engine as an option, so, rather than having to supply two different Hoods, Ford merely offered a plain side Hood without the V8 pressings. Also, the 1941 Ford Trucks got an added approximately 4 inch wide Chrome Trim on the Hood extending down the centre of the Grille. So, what you have is a 1940 model.

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Yep, sure looks like a 1940 1 ton

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610141529

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610141537
These are the Covers of the 1940 and 1941 Ford Truck Sales Brochures.
You can see the slight differences between these two years of Ford trucks.

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Here is a picture of a 1940 1.5 ton.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...mp;d=161014580

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610145733
Here are pictures of my friends 1940 Ford Truck. You can see the V8 pressings on the Hood which denotes that it is a 1940 model. Very nice.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610146216

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610146209
Just for the comparison, here are pictures of the beautiful 1941 Ford Fire Engine that is on display at the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum at Auburn Indiana. Notice that the Hood does not have the pressings with V8 on them that the 1940 model has. That is because in 1941, you had the choice of a 6 or a V8. Also notice the wider Chrome Trim on the Hood, extending down the centre of the Grille. In 1942, Ford released an all new model Ford Truck, so these models were only available for two years, 1940 and 1941, but with slight differences as mentioned above.

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Aint seen no background like that in FlawDah when I went there. Looks more like Montana to me. That cab style is my favorite. I've owned lots of ford tonners and bigger, but only one that was the 40-41 like that. Is it yours?

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Bodie State Historical Park, Bridgeport, CA
https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=509

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Thanks all for the info!



Flaw-duh has some places that look like that...well, except for the mountains. ;) But no, it's in the ghost town of Bodie, CA. I ran across the pic while web-surfing and was curious about it. I'm not knowledgeable about trucks bigger than a pickup, and not real knowledgeable about them. The truck isn't mine, unfortunately. Bodie is a CA state park - I imagine they'd frown on anybody trying to salvage it.

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A-yup.

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That's a well preserved 40 Tonner which in its "hey day" looked like this.

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Dangit, ex, yer always killin' me with pictures of that thing! Maybe this summer will be when we meet up, tonner to tonner! Whidbey could be half way, or you and the Missus come to the island!

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610153305

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610153084
Very nice 1940 Ford Pick-up. Thanks for sharing.

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I like seeing pics of these trucks.....I took this at the Coles Transportation Museum in Hamden, ME.........Mark

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Gary
There was a good restaurant (pre Covid) in downtown Anacortes that I might be able to convince my wife that a 3 hour ride in the Tonner would be fair compensation for any aches and pains that might result from that trek. As an added inducement if the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival happens we can turn both wives loose to look at the posies and you and I can wander around some country roads in our old iron. Looking forward to it.

Les

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...mp;d=161015823

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610158238

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610158243

Very nice 1940 Ford V8 School Bus on display at the Early Ford Foundation Museum in Auburn, Indiana.
Back in 2018 when I visited the Museum, it was wrongly listed as a 1941 model?
As mentioned earlier in this Thread, it has to be a 1940 model, as the 1941 Ford Trucks did not have the V8 pressings on their Hoods, as buyers got the choice between a 6 or a V8 in 1941 for the first time.

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Help out a poor uninformed "shoebox" guy. That school bus sure looks like it has "wide-5" wheels. Did Ford continue them past 1939 on trucks? Some of the other examples in this thread don't appear to have them.

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3/4 tons still had wide fives in '40

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Denny, I had a 1941 3/4 or 1 ton back in 1973 that had wide 5 wheels.




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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610162213

tubman, I can't answer your question personally, as these Ford Panel Trucks were never available in Australia. You would have to ask someone in the USA who is more familiar with this model.
However, if you look at this Illustration of the 1940 Ford 3/4 Ton Panel from the original Sales Brochure, it does appear to have the same "wide-five" wheels that the School Bus that is on display in the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum has?
What do other people think?

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The Ozzie trucks use 38 style doors, whereas the American trucks use the 'jailbar' style doors. Look at the swages..

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3/4 tons used the wide fives, on a 122" wheelbase. Only for a couple years. Never seen one in person. Only thing more oddball would be if it had a 4 cyl tractor engine. So now we have a large, long wheelbase truck with big fender openings and little tires and large interior volume that can't climb a hill. It was short lived for a reason.

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That would be really fun Les! You may want to take the lead, as this little 120 hp diesel rolls a little coal on the hills. Oh wait, the Skagit Valley is really pretty flat. See you then!

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the wide 5 truck hubs and bells were the basis of the early dirt track cars with a QC rear

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610168106

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610168132
Ford Australia built quite a few of these 1940 Open Cab Pick-ups. Many were used by the Army in World War II.
I saw this survivor many years ago, but it's fate is unknown. I don't know if it has been lost or saved?

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Would look even better with the Marmon-Herrington underpinnings.

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1940 & 1941 Trucks came in 4 "sizes" look at the wheels.

Small pickup looked like a standard car, 112" wheel base 16" 5 on 5 1/2" wheel hub caps same as cars.

3/4 ton looked like the ones in these pictures, 122" W.B. 16" wide 5 wheels & hub caps.

Tonner has same look, 122" W.B. 17" split rims and hub caps specific to them.

1 1/2 ton same look Various W.B. 20" split rims, no hubcaps, dual rear wheels.

The big difference in all of these is size of the brakes to match weight rating.

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"Tonner has same look, 122" W.B. 17" split rims and hub caps specific to them."


To clarify a misconception the 1940 17" Tonner Rims used a Continuous Locking Ring to hold the tire to the rim as opposed to the Split Rim type.

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Never knew the actual term for the one piece ring type wheels. Always referred to any 2 piece rim as a split rim (with the exception of widow makers) Either way they are both a PITA to mount/dismount. IMO. Back in the mid '70's I worked with an old guy (he remembered when a lube job included treating the rubber coating on the running boards) who showed me how to mount/dismount them. Even with the correct tire tools the shop had and his assistance I never was able to change a tire as easily as he could and he had me by 40 years or more.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610187109

Here is a picture of a restored Australian 1940 Ford Open Cab Pickup, similar to the one that I added in Post 28.
This one is from down south in Victoria.

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Did the wing windows come on this truck or are they an aftermarket add, or another Australia feature?

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610228342
To answer MGG's question:- This illustration of an Australian 1940 Ford Heavy Duty Truck showing Quarter Windows - is from the original Australian Ford Truck Sales Brochure.

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1940 for sure.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610233848

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610233844
Here are two pictures of Australian 1940 Ford Vans which are illustrated in a Booklet on 1940 Fords published by Ford Australia. Notice that these Vans also have Quarter Windows. Also notice the different full length body moldings that have three strips, which is different to the American body. Also notice that the 15-18 cwt unit has what appears to be Wide Five Wheels.

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Did the 1940 Australian Big Trucks have a cowl vent? I can’t tell from your photos. That might explain the use of 1/4 windows on trucks made in Australia.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1610235484

Australia 1941 Ford Open Cab Pickup. Notice that it does not have V8 Pressings on the sides of the Hood, also it has wide trim on the Hood, thereby making it a 1941 model.

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Now that Coles Transportation Museum is a rare bird for sure...