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joel 03-12-2021 08:34 PM

59A oil pan.. what is this?
 

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I'm trying to find out if the " channel " in the lower left in the picture is supposed to be there. This is how I found it. The picture on the right shows the relative location on the back of the pan. Thanks. Joel

Will D 03-12-2021 09:49 PM

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I don't think so. I have my 59A pan off right now and it does not have that. There are different pans tho....

It looks like just a dent?? Did a piece of something get in between there and the flywheel at some point maybe.




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V8COOPMAN 03-12-2021 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Will D (Post 1995521)
I don't think so. I have my 59A pan off right now and it does not have that. There are different pans tho....

It looks like just a dent?? Did a piece of something get in between there and the flywheel at some point maybe.


I almost have to agree with Will in his assessment. DD

ford38v8 03-12-2021 10:14 PM

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Coop, that’s as wishy washy a response as I ever saw! :D

bbrocksr 03-12-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by joel (Post 1995492)
I'm trying to find out if the " channel " in the lower left in the picture is supposed to be there. This is how I found it. The picture on the right shows the relative location on the back of the pan. Thanks. Joel

The channel was caused by the flywheel rubbing on it. Either the pan got pushed back or too much end play in the crank.


Bill

cas3 03-12-2021 11:14 PM

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quite common for motors out of the car to have dings and dents in the oil pan from many moves, moving techniques, and storage shuffling. Well, at least at my house

V8COOPMAN 03-13-2021 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 1995529)
Coop, that’s as wishy washy a response as I ever saw! :D


OK Alan.....Will is so full of it that his eyes are getting really dark! IS THAT approaching "un-wishy" enough? Coop

ford38v8 03-13-2021 01:34 AM

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Coop, I never heard it said better. You got a pair after all. :)


Will, Don't let that old Houstonite get under your skin. If he really had some smarts, he'd get em up and out of that magnet for calamity he calls home. ;)

Mart 03-13-2021 05:13 AM

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Definitely oil pan to flywheel clearance issue.

I know the 8BA and 59A flywheels are different, I wonder if this is what can happen if you run a 8BA flywheel on a 59A??

Dunno, just wondering.

If there is a corresponding lump on the other side, it might be ok to use. if worn thin, it might need a piece welding in before it can be used.

Do you have the flywheel that was in it? If you do, what does that show?

Mart.

Ziggster 03-13-2021 06:49 AM

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Nothing like that on my C59A pan.

joel 03-13-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bbrocksr (Post 1995536)
The channel was caused by the flywheel rubbing on it. Either the pan got pushed back or too much end play in the crank.


Bill


That was my thought initially, but there is a corresponding " bump " on the inside. I should have provide another pic.

joel 03-13-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1995596)
Definitely oil pan to flywheel clearance issue.

I know the 8BA and 59A flywheels are different, I wonder if this is what can happen if you run a 8BA flywheel on a 59A??

Dunno, just wondering.

If there is a corresponding lump on the other side, it might be ok to use. if worn thin, it might need a piece welding in before it can be used.

Do you have the flywheel that was in it? If you do, what does that show?

Mart.


I compared the flywheel that came assembled with this 59A to the 8ba flywheel that came with the engine that was in the truck . They are not the same. Also, the "dent " is deep enough that if it was produced from flywheel rub, it would have cut through the pan. I'll post a pic of the back side of the flywheel.

joel 03-13-2021 02:20 PM

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Here is a pic of the inside of the pan showing the bump . There are 2 of the flywheel . You can see where it was machined to reduce the weight. I had that done.

bbrocksr 03-13-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joel (Post 1995789)
Here is a pic of the inside of the pan showing the bump . There are 2 of the flywheel . You can see where it was machined to reduce the weight. I had that done.

That bump was caused by the flywheel rubbing. The metal gets hot and moves. kind of like any dent in sheet metal there will be a bump on the other side. It's also probably worn thin in that area. I would braze it up and use it.

Bill

Mart 03-13-2021 03:30 PM

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I would hammer it out, make a judgement of how thin it is, braze it if necessary and use it. Just make sure any braze buildup does not make for another rubbing problem.

joel 03-13-2021 07:39 PM

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Good thoughts Mart, bbrocksr; I can do that when I get the crank back in the block.


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