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David Lien 10-26-2021 07:57 PM

1949 Merc. Water Pumps
 

Is their any advantage or disadvantage to running 49 Wide belt water Pumps. Looks to me like the pulleys are in a different spot??. I have a couple of different styles and was going to send a pair off for rebuilding. thanks up front for any advice that I can get... David

tubman 10-26-2021 08:40 PM

Re: 1949 Merc. Water Pumps
 

Running them on what? I believe the wide belt Mercury pumps are the least used of any on the 8BA series (they are not reproduced). They would only be practical on a concourse correct restoration.

Kilohertz 10-26-2021 10:06 PM

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Is it a car or truck? I think they are different in the way the motor mounts. Truck would be the flat mount and wide belt, I can only speak about the truck, I haven't played with with a car flattie....yet. I think the car mounts are angled??

cheers

This is in a '49 F-47

51504bat 10-26-2021 10:28 PM

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I'm using the later Merc narrow belt pumps on the 8ba in my '39 p/u but at one point had a '49 with the wide belts. The later pumps use a u shaped spacer between the rubber motor mount and the water pump mounting flange. The '49 wide belt pumps used a more square looking spacer IIRC. Mac Van Pelt will known the exact details as the issue of Merc pumps has been discussed in the past.

51504bat 10-26-2021 10:38 PM

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Some info on this thread. Post number 15 shows photos of the spacers used on both the wide and narrow belt pumps.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ry+water+pumps

rotorwrench 10-28-2021 11:58 AM

Re: 1949 Merc. Water Pumps
 

The 49 pumps had a unique isolation mount that was not available for many years and they used the wider belt drive set up more similar to trucks. The 50 & 51 cars used a Lincoln style biscuit isolation mount that is a bit easier to find since they were used in some trucks as well. The 50/51 pumps with the narrow belts and unique fan can allow an engine to be mounted a bit lower in the frame if the right spacers are used. It can also give a bit more radiator clearance but not by much.

Tim Ayers 10-28-2021 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rotorwrench (Post 2070988)
The 49 pumps had a unique isolation mount that was not available for many years and they used the wider belt drive set up more similar to trucks. The 50 & 51 cars used a Lincoln style biscuit isolation mount that is a bit easier to find since they were used in some trucks as well. The 50/51 pumps with the narrow belts and unique fan can allow an engine to be mounted a bit lower in the frame if the right spacers are used. It can also give a bit more radiator clearance but not by much.

Came to say this. The mounting ears are approx. 3" higher on the Merc. which sits the engine much lower if using biscuit-type mounts.

flatjack9 10-28-2021 12:06 PM

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Pulleys are the same location as 8RT pumps, but as noted, mounts are different.

19Fordy 10-28-2021 12:59 PM

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Here's the Merc pumps and mounts.

Automotive Stud 10-28-2021 03:46 PM

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For any non original application you'd be better off using truck water pumps. As noted, they would allow you to use the original style biscuit mount for a cleaner install. Also, replacement pumps down the line are much easier to acquire.

rotorwrench 10-29-2021 11:24 AM

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That depends on where a fabricator wants the motor to set. Truck pumps are the norm but if you want the engine lower then the frame mounts have to be altered. My point is that Merc pumps can be adapted for those situations as well. I rebuild my own pumps so folks not using them leaves more for me to rebuild. It's good for folks to know what else might be available in the early ford parts world when fabricating non stock set ups. I like the Merc fan set up better than the truck for tight spaces but sometimes that's not enough.


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