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TMH1953 12-10-2017 09:01 PM

Foot starter button will not turn motor over
 

1931 model a with 6 volt system. I'am new to model A's . The car has been starting great up until today. Started car and backed it out of garage and turned off ignition switch. Later got ready to for a drive turned ignition switch on hit pushed foot starter button and nothing happened. Ch checked voltage at starter motor 6.6. Volts. Checked voltage at coil 6.6 volts. Put car in 3rd gear and rocked back and forth about 2 foot forward and 2 foot backward while watching fan fan was moving back and forth. What could possibly be wrong.

JDupuis 12-10-2017 09:07 PM

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Starter pedal switch may be dirty. Easy to take apart and clean. Good Luck. Jeff



Also "Welcome to the Barn". I hope you make yourself at home here.

1955cj5 12-10-2017 09:08 PM

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I would check the cable connections at the battery, and also where the cables connect to the frame and at the starter switch.

A poor connection may allow the 6.6 volts to pass easily but may not carry the load needed to turn the starter.

If you find that you need to remove and clean the starter switch be sure to disconnect the battery cables at the battery first....

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1955cj5 12-10-2017 09:15 PM

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2 Attachment(s)
The inside of the starter switch looks like the attached picture.

When you push on the starter foot button you force the copper contact against a contact on the starter itself. If either are corroded it may not work....

TMH1953 12-10-2017 09:22 PM

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Will check all of the above in morning. I have always wanted a model a the car is a blast and o drive, hopefully you guys will excuse my ignorance the learning curve is slow and steady.

1955cj5 12-10-2017 09:27 PM

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Learning about the cars is at least half the fun of owning one....

Post a picture of your car if you get a chance!

Randy


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30Ford 12-10-2017 09:30 PM

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The rod may be too short to engage the starter contact

davehc 12-10-2017 09:33 PM

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Dont worry about the questions , we have all been there at one time or another , ask all you want , theirs always someone here who will know a good answer . I had the same problem this spring , took the starter contact off , cleaned it , was good to go . And yes , show us a pic.

TMH1953 12-10-2017 09:45 PM

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Trying to figure out how to post a picture of my car using photo album on I phone.

Dick Steinkamp 12-11-2017 12:04 AM

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I've had that starter rod unscrew itself from the starter switch.

aermotor 12-11-2017 07:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Steinkamp (Post 1564320)
I've had that starter rod unscrew itself from the starter switch.

Me too - don't forget the jam nut on the rod.

John

old31 12-11-2017 08:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMH1953 (Post 1564282)
Trying to figure out how to post a picture of my car using photo album on I phone.

1: From the iphone send the pics to your email.

2: Open the pics up from your email. I use Paint because its easy and great for cropping.

3: Save and send the pic to your desktop.

4: In this area of the thread go to "manage attachments" and go get the pics from your desktop and download them to the thread.

5: When done cut the pics from the desktop and past them to your favorite picture folder on your computer.

Tom Wesenberg 12-11-2017 11:36 AM

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Are you pushing the right button, and are you pushing hard enough?

TMH1953 12-11-2017 02:11 PM

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Yes sir pushing the right button and pushing hard. I have had the car about 6 months and this is the first time this has happened. Heading out to my shop in few minutes and goi g to check everything posted above. Grounds, battery connections, if al checks out will pull starter switch and try clean it up. Got a new starter switch ordered thru Synder's just in case. Again thanks to all of for helping me out

SeaSlugs 12-11-2017 02:17 PM

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Starter might have a funky spot. Id clean and check the switch first to rule it out. When you cranked it to start it did it crank what youd consider normal? Was it weak sounding ( they do crank slower than a modern car)

frank mcdaniels 12-11-2017 02:24 PM

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No problem, just always park on a hill.

TMH1953 12-11-2017 04:22 PM

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Thanks a million for all the idea's and advice. Took floorboard out and disconnected both positive and ground cables. Cleaned both ends of cables and cleaned and filed where positive grounds on frame. Put her back together and she STARTED on First revolution of engine . Think the problem was a bad ground to frame. The frame was nasty and greasy where it was grounded.

SeaSlugs 12-11-2017 04:27 PM

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Glad you found it. Alot of us add a ground from the frame to an engine to trans bolt or oil pan bolt. Can never have enough grounds haha.

100IH 12-11-2017 04:57 PM

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Original configuration was pos. to ground / neg. was the hot lead going to starter and junction box. Can work both ways for starter and incandescent lights. If you change it,you must polarise unless you have a modified cutout on the generator. Probably do some reading on this and post pictures of engine compartment and generator area, and leave well enough for now till you know exactly what you have. Lot of A people in Texas to help you identify any modifications that are polarity sensitive.

TMH1953 12-11-2017 05:15 PM

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10/4 my model a 1931 Deluxe Tudor Sedan. It's still 6 volt system with positive ground only thing that has been altered is it has 6 volt Nu Rex alternator and a updated water pump but a still have the generator and old water pump.


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