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Canuk40 05-08-2017 04:23 PM

How many attachment points in a 1940 Ford Tudor
 

I am working toward removing the body from the frame and have been looking for bolts holding the body to the frame. Since I have already removed the entire floor, the only points I cannot be sure of are those starting at the rear seat kick up working rearward to the trunk.
How many should I be looking for, and where exactly are they located?

fordor41 05-08-2017 10:15 PM

Re: How many attachment points in a 1940 Ford Tudor
 

check rear edge of floor in trunk, towards the outside corners and outer edge of firewall under the hood. That's where I found 4 in my '41. Probably '40 is pretty close.

Randy in ca 05-08-2017 11:24 PM

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Never done this on a sedan, but pretty sure the rear mounting points (four) are the same as on a coupe. Should be one on each side just behind the rear spring crossmember (on frame top) and one on each side of the rear frame crossmember (a few inches inside of the side frame rail).

Edit: Here's a picture from Bob Drake catalogue.

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TJ 05-09-2017 09:04 AM

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If you are putting in new floors in the car you should leave the body on the frame. Taking it off the frame and installing the floors may cause a lot of misalignment of the doors, etc.

Canuk40 05-09-2017 10:03 AM

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Randy - You are the man. I looked at Drake's site and couldn't find it. Thanks.
TJ - I am doing as you suggest. I have the reinforcement of the B pillars mostly figured out. Very busy place - floor, rocker, rocker extension, B pillar and rear fender tab all come together and attach with 1 bolt. Won't tack it together until I test fit the doors.
As for A pillar, I am replacing both left and right cowl sections with parts from Dennis Carpenter. Promises to be an education in fabrication and fitment.
Once I have all put together and doors back on for fitting, I will detach the completed body and swap frames.
Any additional input of suggestions always welcome.

TJ 05-09-2017 06:24 PM

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Sounds like you have a good plan. You've taken on a project that many would not do and saving an old Ford.

Canuk40 08-02-2017 05:10 PM

Re: How many attachment points in a 1940 Ford Tudor
 

Work progresses on the rust repair. Have fit the new floor and am working on attachments points to frame.
Bought a bolt kit from Drake's (bolts, nuts, washers).
In the kit are 3 lengths of hex head bolts, which should be easy to place.
Also included are 14 bolts (I think they are called Class Bolts). Round heads and squared at top of shank below bolt head. Typically they need a square hole to lock them in place so a nut can be tightened.
No idea where they are used. I sent a message to Drake's but received no reply, so am hoping someone here has an idea where they are used.

rotorwrench 08-02-2017 05:33 PM

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Drake used to have the illustrations in their paper catalog.

flatford8 08-02-2017 05:43 PM

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I'm doing much the same as you on a '51. The bolts you are describing sound like carriage bolts. My car is not a restoration so I'm using regular bolts that are capable of the task....Mark

47Merc 08-03-2017 06:43 AM

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They are probably the bolts that fix the running boards to the frame.

The bolt head fits into the frame with the thread facing out and the running board has washers and nuts to secure it.

Canuk40 08-03-2017 07:57 AM

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Didn't think of the running boards. Sounds promising. Thanks for the info.

JSeery 08-03-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Canuk40 (Post 1507960)
Also included are 14 bolts (I think they are called Class Bolts). Round heads and squared at top of shank below bolt head. Typically they need a square hole to lock them in place so a nut can be tightened.

Carriage Bolts?

Canuk40 08-04-2017 09:18 AM

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Yes, they are carriage colts,( I originally misnamed them - They are also called C Class bolts.)

I looked at the running boards and frame mount locations which are square - so 47Merc is correct.

Thanks all for your input. Now, on the the next thing.


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