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34pocho 09-20-2021 03:59 PM

Marvel Mystery Oiler
 

Has anyone ever hooked up a Marvel Mystery Oiler on a Model A that feeds the cylinders through the manifold vacuum? I seen one for sale on eBay and was curious how it works.

Werner 09-20-2021 04:29 PM

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There are two systems to inject MMO. That, what I use sprays the oil into the cylinders when the vakuum pressure under the carbureter ventury is low. That is when the engine is pushed without any drive work.

The other system, unfortunately I don't remember what it's called, injects oil at high power, that's the better way.

Flathead 09-20-2021 06:25 PM

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Inverse oiler. :)

eagle 09-20-2021 10:31 PM

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I'm really not sure how injecting MM oil would be more effective than adding it to the fuel. I've seen it on Model As and its a comment item at a car show. Looks kind of vintage and "cool". MM oil in the fuel has advantages for the carb I'd think that a manifold injector would bypass. Just my thoughts. I have experience with MM oil doing good things for small engines.

mercman from oz 09-21-2021 04:22 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1632173157
AMOCO Oiler in Model A Ford

Werner 09-21-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eagle (Post 2058624)
I'm really not sure how injecting MM oil would be more effective than adding it to the fuel. I've seen it on Model As and its a comment item at a car show. Looks kind of vintage and "cool". MM oil in the fuel has advantages for the carb I'd think that a manifold injector would bypass. Just my thoughts. I have experience with MM oil doing good things for small engines.

Eagle, what you write is entirely and completely correct! The addition to the fuel has the most efficient effect because the amount of fuel increases with the engine power. (Therefore I add 40 cm³ while taking fuel on the gas station.)

But there is something particularly pleasing to the eye about this old-fashioned MMO metering system, and I think it fits the Model A well. Isn't it?

eagle 09-21-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Werner (Post 2058797)
Eagle, what you write is entirely and completely correct! The addition to the fuel has the most efficient effect because the amount of fuel increases with the engine power. (Therefore I add 40 cm³ while taking fuel on the gas station.)

But there is something particularly pleasing to the eye about this old-fashioned MMO metering system, and I think it fits the Model A well. Isn't it?

It does, very cool!

Patrick L. 09-23-2021 08:21 AM

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It is a pretty neat looking looking piece. And would be good with ATF for pickling the engine for the off season.

51504bat 09-23-2021 09:36 AM

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I had one on the 8ba in my '39 p/u. Problem was that I couldn't get the glass jar to seal. Made several different gaskets but never could stop it from leaking. Ended up taking it off. Its still on the shelf. Maybe this winter I'll give it another try.

Nosetime 09-23-2021 10:59 AM

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A real one.

Werner 09-23-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 51504bat (Post 2059344)
... Problem was that I couldn't get the glass jar to seal. Made several different gaskets but never could stop it from leaking. ...

Was that rubber seals? In this application, cork gasket is the better way.

MMO contains synthetic ester oil and isoalkanes as well as cycloalkanes. These attack some plastics. Rubber seals swell and then become brittle.

51504bat 09-23-2021 01:12 PM

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Tried both. Rubber and cork. Neither would seal completely.

old ugly 09-23-2021 05:22 PM

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OK, so i'm old and stupid, but help me understand.
what is the purpose of injecting the "MMO"?
Is it supposed to be injected into the intake manifold while the engine is running?
thanks
ou

McMimmcs 09-24-2021 06:20 AM

Re: Marvel Mystery Oiler
 

It looks weird and looks like it doesn’t belong. I wouldn’t take one as a gift !

Werner 09-24-2021 08:03 AM

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Old Ugly,

MMO has two great characteristics. The ester oil is extremely temperature stable and supports the boundary lubrication on the valve stems and also the top dead center piston + cylinder.

The most important benefit is the addition of detergents. These loosen and burn soot and ash in the combustion chambers and on the valve tulips, spark plugs.

Since the old engines always burn a lot of oil and especially simple mineral oils leave behind a lot of residue crust, it is helpful to mix such additives with the gasoline in very small doses.

It also dissolves resin deposits etc. in the fuel tank and the pipes.

Sunny the Model A 09-24-2021 08:08 AM

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What a curious idea, sort of like the oil injector on a two stroke saab :)

old ugly 09-24-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Werner (Post 2059691)
Old Ugly,

MMO has two great characteristics. The ester oil is extremely temperature stable and supports the boundary lubrication on the valve stems and also the top dead center piston + cylinder.

The most important benefit is the addition of detergents. These loosen and burn soot and ash in the combustion chambers and on the valve tulips, spark plugs.

Since the old engines always burn a lot of oil and especially simple mineral oils leave behind a lot of residue crust, it is helpful to mix such additives with the gasoline in very small doses.

It also dissolves resin deposits etc. in the fuel tank and the pipes.

i take it that you like and use it?
how much would you dump into a full Model a fuel tank?
ou

Werner 09-24-2021 12:16 PM

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Hi Ugly,

use approximately 1:400. That's 3.5 US fl oz on 11 gallons of fuel. Much more is not necessary and also not helpful.

old ugly 09-24-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Werner (Post 2059779)
Hi Ugly,

use approximately 1:400. That's 3.5 US fl oz on 11 gallons of fuel. Much more is not necessary and also not helpful.

nice.
do you notice any difference with drivability or engine performance?
engine cleaner inside?

thanks
ou

Werner 09-24-2021 01:18 PM

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The performance of the engine and its idling have remained unchanged.

The spark plug inner insulators are much cleaner. If you peer into the combustion chamber through the plug bores, you can see that all the residues gradually diminish over time.

Gerne gemacht!


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