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Kube 11-11-2019 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1820219)
No doubt, Kubarth ("Kube") surely has restored an appreciable number of '39s and '40s over the last several years. I really don't understand how he is able to complete each in the seemingly-short time that he usually spends completing one. Of all the cars Mike has done over the years and has had judged, I've only managed to scrutinize two of his earlier restorations...the little blue coupe that shows in his avatar, and that now-infamous blue '40 Convert (with accompanying drink holder) that eventually ended-up selling out of the Dingman Collection for a reported $165K several years back. I remember Mike saying that that car judged ONLY 999 points, and that because of a 1-point deduction for two tiny pits in one of the rear axle housings. I honestly believe that the blue avatar coupe must surely be one of his favorites as Mike sold that coupe to someone in the northeast I believe, only to re-purchase it at a later date. I understand that he eventually sold it a second time, and have since heard that he would really like to have it back AGAIN. Almost kind of comical! But my whole point here is to express my thoughts about the extent of the detail and workmanship that Mike puts into these jewels by bringing attention to a couple of oft-overlooked and frequently forgotten areas for restoration. On the two "Kubarth" '40s that I'm familiar with above, you could look down past the roll-up windows in the doors and notice the result of what must have been some painstaking effort to make the insides and bottoms of those doors look just as pristine and finished as the paint on the fenders. Not only were the door innards a work of art, but the underside and rear of the instrument panel area along with the upper, inside of the dash (firewall) were finished every bit as nicely as any other part of the interior that shows in plain view. The guy seems to have this 1940 Ford restoration process about down to a science. I think that Mike really must be, by his own admission, one of those seriously-afflicted OCD types, as he seems to be the consummate artisan, always paying the utmost of attention to the minute details that make any "Kubarth Restoration" a significant work of note. DD

Yep, just a tad OCD.
Your words are too kind and undeserved.
Thank you. I appreciate your comments.

I'm blushing :)

Planojc 11-13-2019 10:46 AM

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Looking forward to seeing what you do on your lunch hour.

Kube 11-13-2019 05:27 PM

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What a wonderful opportunity! For rookies, like myself, describe, for example, the frame process....media blasting, filing , sanding, paint.....
Thank you for your time, it's one thing to do a restore, it's another to take time and post about it all along the way...

Tomorrow is (gloss black) paint time on the frame. I am eager.

You'd asked about the process in regard to the frame...
I start by removing all components from it. Then I clean away all the grease, etc. Then it's sand blasted quite aggressively.
Once I am certain the frame is true, I begin to repair any bends, dings, etc. If there are "extra" holes that don't belong in a restored frame, those get welded shut and metal finished smooth.
This frame required one of the middle cross braces to be replaced. The replacement was riveted in as was authentic.
Then I prime and sand. I prepare my frames as I prepare hoods, fenders, etc. As most realize, the proper preparation is paramount to a beautiful finished result.
Then, I prime and sand again.
This was a rather nice frame to begin with. Very few pits and other than that damaged brace, little other repair work was required.

Tomorrow I will wipe this down with Pre-Cleano one more time and shoot...

DavidG 11-13-2019 07:53 PM

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Mike,


A detour, but I wanted you to know that you are not alone.

Willi_D 11-13-2019 08:29 PM

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Nice ..wish I had more free Time & Garage space to work on mine..

Kube 11-13-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1820977)
Mike,


A detour, but I wanted you to know that you are not alone.

Wow! I'd like to think great minds think alike but there is only one great mind at work here - yours.
So, I'll chalk this up to coincidence. Very cool Dave. Thanks for sharing!

What's your frame going to end up under?

35fordtn 11-13-2019 08:46 PM

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Mike, Nice work! those frames sure are a pain to sand all the little crevices to remove the pitting, as you know. Assembly seems to be the easy part on a Early Ford V-8, but the sanding, blocking and paint related tasks are where he work really is in my opinion.

On a side note, what brand primer do you use? Also what about paint?

If you have never checked out Tamco Paint, I would recommend it highly as it seems to out surpass the PPG counterparts. I would bet most everything I own that that beautiful frame David posted a photo of was done with Tamco Products.

Hat's off to you, and excellent work!

DavidG 11-13-2019 09:24 PM

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Mike,

Under these things, but there is a fundamental difference in that what you show is your handiwork and in my photos, the handiwork is that of a couple of long-time good friends who happen to be world-class painters and paint preparers. My role is researcher, parts finder, and final assembler where the devil in the details.

Kube 11-13-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 35fordtn (Post 1820990)
Mike, Nice work! those frames sure are a pain to sand all the little crevices to remove the pitting, as you know. Assembly seems to be the easy part on a Early Ford V-8, but the sanding, blocking and paint related tasks are where he work really is in my opinion.

On a side note, what brand primer do you use? Also what about paint?

If you have never checked out Tamco Paint, I would recommend it highly as it seems to out surpass the PPG counterparts. I would bet most everything I own that that beautiful frame David posted a photo of was done with Tamco Products.

Hat's off to you, and excellent work!

Hey Michael,
You are of course correct in regard to the task of sanding these frames. I could check my notes but off the top of my head, I'd say I have well over 100 hours in this frame to date.
And to think this was a nice frame to begin with!

I've been using ChromaBase primer and Nason Ful-Thane color for years upon years.
Cost is reasonable and it has proven to last very well for years upon years.
I doubt I'll change but appreciate your advice. This stuff has worked so well, for so very long... plus, I know just how to handle it.

Kube 11-13-2019 09:35 PM

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Mike,


Under these things.

My gosh man! Good for you!

Ya know, you'd made a comment in an earlier post that "I am not alone".
You are correct but beyond you and I, well, we might be alone :)
I've had more than one person suggest that you and I are the only two remaining doing this type of (read OCD) work.

Here's a photo of the inside of the cab on that '40 PU I'd recently completed.
I ask you: How many guys (other than the two of us) that block out the interiors?

35fordtn 11-13-2019 09:40 PM

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Mike, as with anything when you find something that works, stick with it! Out of curiosity do you use Nason on the sheet metal as well?

I haven’t sprayed much DuPont products other than some chromabase (base coat) as it’s hard to find around here. I assume Nason is a DuPont product?

Again excellent work in a world where most frames receive krylon from walmart!

35fordtn 11-13-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1821005)
Mike,

Under these things, but there is a fundamental difference in that what you show is your handiwork and in my photos, the handiwork is that of a couple of long-time good friends who happen to be world-class painters and paint preparers. My role is researcher, parts finder, and final assembler where the devil in the details.

David, you indeed have the best painters Iíve ever in my extremely inexperienced short life have encountered. One of your painters has thought me more in short conversations in the last two years about painting than I had ever learned before. Take that and add it to your extensive research and patience in correctly assembling them, and you get the final results that are typical of yours or Kubes cars in the fact that they are the best there is in the world of early v-8ís

Charlie Stephens 11-13-2019 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by '36 5W (Post 1818396)
Ditto here; subscribed!

How do you subscribe?

Charlie Stephens

V8COOPMAN 11-13-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1821008)

How many guys (other than the two of us) that block out the interiors?


This is but one example of what I was talking about in Post #99. DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...9&d=1573698942

DavidG 11-13-2019 11:08 PM

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Mike,


Re. the '40 p.u.; super duper!

Tinker 11-14-2019 12:56 AM

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great stuff!

RalphM 11-14-2019 03:33 AM

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Mike,
On the frame, what do you do to ensure the doubled up area in the rear mostly, is clean? I find it very hard to clean, and even harder to paint properly. Is separating them an option?

Thank you,
Ralph

Mart 11-14-2019 08:48 AM

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We are not worthy!

Kube 11-14-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RalphM (Post 1821062)
Mike,
On the frame, what do you do to ensure the doubled up area in the rear mostly, is clean? I find it very hard to clean, and even harder to paint properly. Is separating them an option?

Thank you,
Ralph

This is one of those numerous areas Michael Driskall eluded to in his previous post. A definite pain in the butt... lots of effort to get this area clean and even more to get it smooth for painting.
The trick to preparing? Patience, lots of patience.
The trick to painting in those areas? For me, it's turn the pressure way down at the gun.

Ian1932 11-14-2019 09:51 AM

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Wow! Some nice looking paint jobs in this thread! I love watching people progress from rust and dents to glass like finishes! Watching...


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