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Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 05:25 AM

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There are many model A owners that swear by their add-on turn signals, and I can see where they would be a great addition to a daily driver......but.....I really hate the look of them. I want my model A to have the look of the old days.


Sooooo, what about this idea:

Mini Strobe Beacon Safety Flasher Warning Light / Magnetic Base Mount
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154223944800?var=454334244660

This is a hand-held red strobe light. It would likely be seen and recognized by those who are not used to seeing anyone using hand signals. It blinks, and is red, similar to modern turn signals.

It has a magnetic base that might be handy for keeping it somewhere in the driver's area, when not being used.

Well, yes......you still have to roll down your window!.....but your model A retains the old-timey look that I'm hoping to preserve.

What do you think of this?

Bruce of MN 11-28-2021 06:08 AM

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Would you stick it out the passenger window for right turns?

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 06:17 AM

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No.....use like you would normally do for regular hand turn signals.

Oldbluoval 11-28-2021 06:24 AM

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Not for me…..
Seems like just enhanced arm signals from long ago.
Btw, I’ve not seen an arm signal for turns out a drivers window in 25 years. Now I’ve seen a few “finger signals” fairly often!!

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 06:28 AM

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Do you have added turn signals on your model A?

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 06:37 AM

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Well, I've decided to give this strobe light a try......ordered just now!

I could easily install one of the turn signal kits on my model A.....but, like I said, they just look out of place.

David R. 11-28-2021 06:48 AM

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I bought a pair of old turn signal lights with the arrow shaped lenses I plan to restore and use on front and add original style tail light on right for my AA project.

McMimmcs 11-28-2021 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Eccentric Old Guy (Post 2080163)
Well, I've decided to give this strobe light a try......ordered just now!

I could easily install one of the turn signal kits on my model A.....but, like I said, they just look out of place.

With all due respect if turn signals look out of place, this will look ridiculous. People will think a kid is playing a game.

panhead_pete 11-28-2021 07:35 AM

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Beacuse holding a flashing light in your hand then trying to put it somewhere when turning is safe.....


Have a search for mini LED lights, plenty of super small versions available now custom bike builders use.


I have these on one of my HDs, you wouldnt notice them on a Model A until they get turned on.
https://roadsiderepairshop.com/produ...-dyna-xl-black

Patrick L. 11-28-2021 07:50 AM

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What is not to like about turn signals ? You don't like the switch ?

There is no need to change or add anything to the outside of the vehicle.

McMimmcs 11-28-2021 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick L. (Post 2080179)
What is not to like about turn signals ? You don't like the switch ?

There is no need to change or add anything to the outside of the vehicle.

Obviously, You make a very valid point!

Bob Bidonde 11-28-2021 08:23 AM

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I use the tail lights and cowl lights for turn signals, so there is no exterior change in appearance from the original Model "A".

BillLee/Chandler, TX 11-28-2021 09:21 AM

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I have added turn signals on my '29 Tudor. Sitting in the driver's seat, you can see the controller on the side of the steering column. There is NOTHING on the outside of the car that isn't on the original, all turn signal lights are part of the stock-looking lights of the car.


Many use the cowl lights. I use the second bulb (double contact) in the headlight can. And, of course, the tail lights in the back. Properly done, there is nothing to "hate the look of them".

old31 11-28-2021 09:32 AM

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Conaway2 11-28-2021 09:37 AM

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“There are many model A owners that swear by their add-on turn signals, and I can see where they would be a great addition to a daily driver......but.....I really hate the look of them. I want my model A to have the look of the old days.”

I understand this sentiment completely, and for years did not add a passenger-side tail/brake light or turn signals and kept my car completely stock to preserve its original look. I also drove the car about 100 miles per year.

However, after starting to drive my Model A in daily traffic several years ago, I quickly realized most drivers today don’t recognize hand signals and aren’t attentive enough to recognize a single tail/brake light.

Sooo….to avoid being rear-ended and be able to drive safely in modern traffic, I did add a passenger-side light and added LogoLites LED turn signals. I also upgraded all lighting except cowl light to LEDs. I’m now much more confident that other drivers will see me and have put about 2000 incident-free miles on the car this past year.

Good luck with whatever decision you make.
Jim

Gene F 11-28-2021 09:40 AM

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Well, Old31 that was kinda harsh don't ya think? People come here to get help, and discuss ideas. Just because someone has a different idea, or opinion doesn't make it wrong.

KenBolton 11-28-2021 10:00 AM

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A couple of years ago I was driving on a state highway and signaling a left hand turn with my arm. There was on-coming traffic with a car behind gaining fast on me. The fool past me into the coming traffic. After the shock and anger subsided I realized the offending driver had no clue what hand signals are. I ordered and installed signals before taking the car out again.

goodcar 11-28-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gene F (Post 2080208)
Well, Old31 that was kinda harsh don't ya think? People come here to get help, and discuss ideas. Just because someone has a different idea, or opinion doesn't make it wrong.

Need to be careful before clicking submit. I was chastised for my reply to someone who took issue with one of my posts. I wasn't being disrespectful to the person--just honest. Feel lucky I wasn't banned. Be nice, everyone needs to feel welcome on this blog.

sugarmaker 11-28-2021 12:12 PM

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EOG,
I can see both sides of this for sure. I sure like the look of a original unmolested car and its spartan features. But:
I will use my truck as an example. I bought this truck and it had been off the road since 1952. (70 years) So the truck was 20 years old (a 32 model) when retired. The original owner had installed aftermarket turn signals on the front fenders, the arrow type, Also headlights had been changed to sealed beam. rear stops lights had been added, with dual bulbs for signals. reflectors had been added to every corner of the dump bed too.
Fast forward 70 years and the roads are not nearly as safe for these older slower vehicles. Hand signals are a thing of the past, other than a central finger showing you that your number "one"!
I chose to add all the signals and lights that I felt were appropriate and safer as I travel the highways today in that ol' truck.
Just my two cents for what its worth. Its your vehicle, do what makes you comfortable on the roads. Have fun getting out and enjoying it too!
Regards,
Chris

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gene F (Post 2080208)
Well, Old31 that was kinda harsh don't ya think? People come here to get help, and discuss ideas. Just because someone has a different idea, or opinion doesn't make it wrong.

I don't get the childish resentment with this idea, either.....:(

The strobe is on the way.

Looking forward to trying it out! :)

Jim Brierley 11-28-2021 12:24 PM

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I have turn signals only in my taillights, and the switch is just a small toggle switch that I have mounted in plain sight but could easily be mounted under the dash rail, out of sight. I bought the system from Speedway Motors.in Nebraska.

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarmaker (Post 2080273)
EOG,
I can see both sides of this for sure. I sure like the look of a original unmolested car and its spartan features. But:
I will use my truck as an example. I bought this truck and it had been off the road since 1952. (70 years) So the truck was 20 years old (a 32 model) when retired. The original owner had installed aftermarket turn signals on the front fenders, the arrow type, Also headlights had been changed to sealed beam. rear stops lights had been added, with dual bulbs for signals. reflectors had been added to every corner of the dump bed too.
Fast forward 70 years and the roads are not nearly as safe for these older slower vehicles. Hand signals are a thing of the past, other than a central finger showing you that your number "one"!
I chose to add all the signals and lights that I felt were appropriate and safer as I travel the highways today in that ol' truck.
Just my two cents for what its worth. Its your vehicle, do what makes you comfortable on the roads. Have fun getting out and enjoying it too!
Regards,
Chris

Thanks, Chris.....

If I had cowl lamps, I might be a little more interested in turn signals. Here in Montana, local traffic isn't as hectic as in some other places, so this strobe idea does make some sense to me. There are times when there is no other traffic at all.....and, I don't bother to even give a signal! :D

In my local model A club, there are those who do and don't have turn signals.

I still see FB as a resource for me and my 28ccpu.

Have a good day, gentlemen (and ladies, if there are any on here!)

EOG

McMimmcs 11-28-2021 01:19 PM

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You Want truck original but you put bumpers on it?

old ugly 11-28-2021 01:24 PM

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i have to say i don't like the idea.

but there are a a lot of things i don't like.

old ugly 11-28-2021 01:26 PM

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i wonder what the cops will say to you when they see it?

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by old ugly (Post 2080290)
i have to say i don't like the idea.

but there are a a lot of things i don't like.

I'll give you your space to believe as you wish......all I ask is to be given mine! :)

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Originally Posted by McMimmcs (Post 2080287)
You Want truck original but you put bumpers on it?

It had the bumpers when I bought it, and they don't interfere with the old time look, because they are "period correct".

I probably wouldn't add the bumpers, if thy weren't already there.....but, they do add some protection, if I ever get rear ended.....because of that, I'm kinda glad they're there
!

McMimmcs 11-28-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eccentric Old Guy (Post 2080295)
I'll give you your space to believe as you wish......all I ask is to be given mine! :)



It had the bumpers when I bought it, and they don't interfere with the old time look, because they are "period correct".

I probably wouldn't add the bumpers, if thy weren't already there.....but, they do add some protection, if I ever get rear ended.....because of that, I'm kinda glad they're there
!

Let me assure you, proper turn signals offer protection also!

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by McMimmcs (Post 2080314)
Let me assure you, proper turn signals offer protection also!

I can agree with that.

My 28ccpu didn't come with turn signals.

Synchro909 11-28-2021 03:09 PM

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Henry used safety glass and installed shock absorbers in the interest of safety. They added to the price of a new car which went against what he wanted but he did it anyway to protect his customers' lives. If they were available, I bet he would have put turn signals on too.

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 2080321)
Henry used safety glass and installed shock absorbers in the interest of safety. They added to the price of a new car which went against what he wanted but he did it anyway to protect his customers' lives. If they were available, I bet he would have put turn signals on too.

All could be true......but, the fact is, the turn signals were not available. If they had been, they would have been "period correct", and I would insist on having them!

Hope things are going well down under, mate. We are in uncertain times, for sure. I flew with an integrated unit in Vietnam....Royal Australian Navy + US Army aviation. I have a great deal of respect for you Aussies!

Dick Carne 11-28-2021 04:14 PM

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I have to agree with Ken Bolton above. I'm not sure that many drivers these day even know what hand signals are anymore. I too, had an experience several years back where I was signaling a left hand turn only to have a much younger driver pass me on the left even with a solid center line (I presume because I was slowing down for the turn). That incident taught me to now crowd the center of the road if it happens to be something other than a main thoroughfare where there might be actual turn lanes. While I don't have them on all of our cars (yet), I am looking to add them as time and finances permit. And like Bob Bidonde above, I have used the cowl lights and tail lights on the one car that these have been added on to thus far - and rather than use a turn signal lever off the steering column, I chose instead to use the toggle switch sold by S/M Electro-Tech Inc. and have mounted it to where it just barely shows in the center just below the dash rail (68C). I still haven't figured out what to use in the front on those cars that don't have cowl lights, but hopefully I still have a little time to figure out something that will at least be somewhat "era sensitive".

Having said this, anything that you might do to call attention to your plans to make a turn would seem to prove helpful ... and there are multiple ways to "skin a cat". Good luck on this - I hope that this method will work well for you.

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Carne (Post 2080340)
Having said this, anything that you might do to call attention to your plans to make a turn would seem to prove helpful ... and there are multiple ways to "skin a cat". Good luck on this - I hope that this method will work well for you.

Thanks for that, Dick....

At this point, the strobe is nothing more than an experiment. I hope it works out, too.....but, I don't discount the possibility that someday I might end up with turn signals. Like I said before, there are others in my local club that don't have them, and don't intend to get them. For now, I feel the same....but, who knows!

GPierce 11-28-2021 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Bidonde (Post 2080183)
I use the tail lights and cowl lights for turn signals, so there is no exterior change in appearance from the original Model "A".

I did just like Bob. External appearance unchanged.
They are activated by spring loaded toggle switch under the dash rail and self cancel after 15 seconds unless you have the brake on.
The controller is hidden behind the left kick panel so no hardware or wiring is visible.
http://www.turnswitch.com/

Alaska Mike 11-28-2021 05:45 PM

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I keep hearing this term "period correct". I think it means some improvement made at or around a time when the car was new or at least "newer". Many seem to think that if the change is "period correct" it is ok to modify their car that way. I have decided that I am trying to drive this car on roads today, and this is the "period" I live in now, so for the sake of my safety and the safety of others, I better have a modification that today's drivers understand. That will probably not include hand signals, strobe lights, etc. Good luck to all and I hope you stay safe!

Y-Blockhead 11-28-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by old31 (Post 2080201)
Stupid is what stupid does.

What, do you jump in the back seat with that thing when you are backing up?

I don't think we need to go there...

Old Guy, I don't like the looks of turn signals either, esspecially those GM side marker looking lights that mount between the bumper bars. Or the switch hanging off of the steering column.

I have a DPDT toggle switch under the dash rail and use small 2" "bullet" lights on the rear that resemble the headlight shells.


https://live.staticflickr.com/4643/3...6fd86bc8_w.jpg

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Dennis Pereira 11-28-2021 05:52 PM

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Maybe some L.E.D.s that would fit between the bumper bars if you have bumpers. Using hand signals might cause road rage .

nkaminar 11-28-2021 07:01 PM

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I want to add trafficators to my Fordor. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficators


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1638144049

Eccentric Old Guy 11-28-2021 09:24 PM

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I want to add trafficators to my Fordor. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficators

Those are interesting......are the trafficators currently being manufactured anywhere?

Some here feel that hand signals won't be recognized by other drivers, and the same problem may occur with the trafficators.

Even in this attached photo, the trafficator is difficult to recognize:

Ryan 11-28-2021 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by old31 (Post 2080201)
Stupid is what stupid does.

What, do you jump in the back seat with that thing when you are backing up?

Banned for two weeks. Not interested in this kind of content or user.

Model A Ron 11-29-2021 01:44 AM

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I have turn signals on my 29 and I like them but they do look out of place in my opinion. As for my 31 Victoria project they never had them and I am going for original. To each their own.


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