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Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 11:18 AM

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I’ve got the newly rebuilt flathead back in my 40 and it’s running good . Problem is it’s like the farther you go the hotter it gets. With thermostats or without, block is clean, new radiator, rebuilt water pumps , timing is good. Yesterday I removed the upper radiator hoses and filled the heads with water up to the neck and removed the belt so the pumps wouldn’t turn. Cranked it up and looked for bubbles in the heads, there wasn’t anything there so that eliminates a leaky gasket . Before I got this car it sat in an open shed for the probably the last 20 years. I’m beginning to wonder if the exhaust could be partially blocked by mice or something. I’m at wits end with this thing.

deuce lover 05-19-2022 01:11 PM

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Nice looking car but sideways is is hard.Try a vacuum gauge on it.It will tell you if have a choked muffler.

petehoovie 05-19-2022 01:26 PM

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Ken's '40...
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19Fordy 05-19-2022 02:57 PM

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Ken, Are the old radiator hoses soft and collapsing and restricting flow?

Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 03:12 PM

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Ken, Are the old radiator hoses soft and collapsing and restricting flow?

No, they are new.

flatjack9 05-19-2022 03:15 PM

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A new engine will tend to run hotter at first. What about carburetion?

Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 03:28 PM

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A new engine will tend to run hotter at first. What about carburetion?

Yeah, I was expecting it to run hotter since it is all new . Took it for a 10 mile run yesterday and it was pegging the gauge when I got back home. Checked it with my temp gun and both sides were consistent 210 degrees. Best I remember the carb has .051 jets. It has the 91-99 carburetor on it.

51 MERC-CT 05-19-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama (Post 2130985)
I’ve got the newly rebuilt flathead back in my 40 and it’s running good . Problem is it’s like the farther you go the hotter it gets. With thermostats or without, block is clean, new radiator, rebuilt water pumps , timing is good. Yesterday I removed the upper radiator hoses and filled the heads with water up to the neck and removed the belt so the pumps wouldn’t turn. Cranked it up and looked for bubbles in the heads, there wasn’t anything there so that eliminates a leaky gasket . Before I got this car it sat in an open shed for the probably the last 20 years. I’m beginning to wonder if the exhaust could be partially blocked by mice or something. I’m at wits end with this thing.

What do you mean " The farther you go the hotter it gets?
How hot does it get? Boil over?

Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 03:59 PM

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What do you mean " The farther you go the hotter it gets?
How hot does it get? Boil over?

Yes, it will boil. For example, I can drive it 2 miles down the road and back but if I were to go say 10 miles like yesterday it’ll get hot.

Bored&Stroked 05-19-2022 04:52 PM

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How do you know the timing is good? Did you put a degree wheel on it and put markings and a pointer on it?

If it continues to heat up (and the timing is right), then my guess is that either you're not pumping enough water through it, or your overall cooling capacity isn't good enough.

What type of radiator did you put in it? Also, are the water pumps ones with modern impellers (like Skip puts on them) . . . or stock type impellers?

Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 05:53 PM

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How do you know the timing is good? Did you put a degree wheel on it and put markings and a pointer on it?

If it continues to heat up (and the timing is right), then my guess is that either you're not pumping enough water through it, or your overall cooling capacity isn't good enough.

What type of radiator did you put in it? Also, are the water pumps ones with modern impellers (like Skip puts on them) . . . or stock type impellers?

No, I did not put a degree wheel on it. The camshaft is an nos Ford cam so I figured it would be good. Distributor and ignition timing was setup on my Sun distributor machine. The radiator is one of the new Bob Drake units. Pumps are stock pumps.

19Fordy 05-19-2022 06:17 PM

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Is the radiator clean on the inside and can you see the water circulating in the radiator?

Disconnect the lower hoses and flush out the radiator with a hose to check the flow.

Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 06:26 PM

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Is the radiator clean on the inside and can you see the water circulating in the radiator?

Disconnect the lower hoses and flush out the radiator with a hose to check the flow.

I’ve eliminated the exhaust possibility . I had an nos muffler I wanted to install anyway. I’m thinking I’ll take the radiator out of my coupe and put it in there and see how that goes. New ain’t always better. ��

cadillac512 05-19-2022 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama (Post 2131077)
I’ve eliminated the exhaust possibility . I had an nos muffler I wanted to install anyway. I’m thinking I’ll take the radiator out of my coupe and put it in there and see how that goes. New ain’t always better. ��




Good plan. If it keeps getting hotter the further you drive, it sure sounds like radiator. 210 and steady isn't dangerous but rising from there and losing coolant/boiling is another matter. The radiator swap may be the answer.


Terry

Bored&Stroked 05-19-2022 09:22 PM

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RE Pumps: I always run Skips pumps on my engines - as I like the way he rebuilds them (bearings, not bushings) and his impeller moves a LOT more water than the small straight impellers on original pumps. The engine in my 32 is 284 cubes and I can be stuck in traffic in 90+ degree weather (stop n go stuff) - and it won't overheat. At the Columbus Goodguy's one year I was sitting idling for about 45 minutes . . . and it passed the test with no problems (and that is with a non-pressurized system).

Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked (Post 2131123)
RE Pumps: I always run Skips pumps on my engines - as I like the way he rebuilds them (bearings, not bushings) and his impeller moves a LOT more water than the small straight impellers on original pumps. The engine in my 32 is 284 cubes and I can be stuck in traffic in 90+ degree weather (stop n go stuff) - and it won't overheat. At the Columbus Goodguy's one year I was sitting idling for about 45 minutes . . . and it passed the test with no problems (and that is with a non-pressurized system).

I have a pair of Skips pumps on the shelf. I’ll give them a try. I’m starting to question the repop Drake radiator. I’m thinking I’ll take the radiator out of my 40 coupe and put it in there to see how it goes.

petehoovie 05-19-2022 09:54 PM

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What is the condition of the block innards? Was the block thoroughly cleaned out of crud?

Ken/Alabama 05-19-2022 11:03 PM

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What is the condition of the block innards? Was the block thoroughly cleaned out of crud?

Yes, shake and bake then several hours with a long pointed rod poking around in the water jackets. This block wasn’t bad at all. It was pretty clean to begin with.

Tinker 05-20-2022 12:01 AM

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Have you checked your gauges. Ya stupid question.

Tinker 05-20-2022 12:29 AM

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