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chopo 02-26-2013 04:15 PM

spring kit for rad
 

i bought a spring/mounting kit today. does onyone hav an illistrastion as how to install it the proper way? thanks Jon

Gary WA 02-26-2013 05:00 PM

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Up from the bottom.

chopo 02-26-2013 06:33 PM

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thanks for the photo. hard for these ol eyes to see. on the front crossember does the spring go between the rad and the frame ??

Tom Wesenberg 02-26-2013 06:49 PM

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No, the bolt goes in from the bottom up, then the radiator tabs setting on the frame welt (made from various scrap) then the spring on top of the tab, then the castle nut and cotter pin. BTW my original welt between the radiator tabs and crossmember is made from brake lining that has been rolled thin.

chopo 02-27-2013 06:43 AM

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whats the reason for the springs?

chopo 02-27-2013 06:44 AM

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you see if i sit my rad tabs ditrectly on the crossmember the bottom hits the hand crank loop at the spring u bolt. do i have the wrong rad

BobbyG 02-27-2013 06:56 AM

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Gary WA - What book is that you have there please ?

Bob

Tom Wesenberg 02-27-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chopo (Post 600731)
you see if i sit my rad tabs ditrectly on the crossmember the bottom hits the hand crank loop at the spring u bolt. do i have the wrong rad

Do you have the radiator pads in place? Mine are about 1/8" to 3/16" thick and fit right under the radiator tabs. Also when Ford started the lower crossmember pads is late 29 they added a 1/4" shim to make up the difference for the remainder of 29 style radiator production.

Tom Wesenberg 02-27-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chopo (Post 600728)
whats the reason for the springs?

The springs allow frame flex without putting stress on the radiator.

Do you have the correct style starter bushing and U bolts?

What time period is you car?

Tom Wesenberg 02-27-2013 02:19 PM

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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...rg/Radpad2.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...adiatorPad.jpg

My 28 doesn't show the raised mounting area of the crossmember real well, but the mounting pad is level with the bottom of the top frame rail. In about September 1929 the mounting pad was lowered 1/4" and an additional shim was added to make up that 1/4". I don't know why Ford didn't just wait until the new taller radiator was out before they lowered the mounting pad.

Gary WA 02-27-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyG (Post 600734)
Gary WA - What book is that you have there please ?

Bob

Les Andrews, Model A Mechanic Handbook.

supergnat 02-28-2013 07:18 AM

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Chopo,
Here is what is in the Service Bulletins page 452. I hope the .pdf attaches this time.
Supergnat

BobbyG 03-04-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary WA (Post 601273)
Les Andrews, Model A Mechanic Handbook.

Noted - Many thanks

Bob

chopo 03-04-2013 06:28 PM

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the bottom of my rad is at an angle. to the one side. when the tabs are sitting of the frame directly the rad his the crank starter bushing

Tom Wesenberg 03-04-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chopo (Post 604634)
the bottom of my rad is at an angle. to the one side. when the tabs are sitting of the frame directly the rad his the crank starter bushing

Yep, that information is in the J/S and states sometime after March 1929 the lower tank was made larger by angling the bottom of the tank. About mid 1929 a recess was put into the rear edge of the top tank to make room for the rivets.

Jeff M 09-11-2019 01:52 AM

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Does this look like the correct tension for the rad springs?

BRENT in 10-uh-C 09-11-2019 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff M (Post 1797824)
Does this look like the correct tension for the rad springs?

It likely will be fine.

Jeff M 09-11-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C (Post 1797853)
It likely will be fine.


I just wasn't sure if I should crank them down a little more for the head to fit inside the nut and bend the cotter pin over the stud or to bend them around the nut as the attached picture. Since the manuals all say "tighten until you can just get a cotter pin installed."

ericr 09-12-2019 08:17 AM

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does anyone know if the repro springs are stiffer than originals?


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