Removing the gearbox backward, it's stuck
 

Hi guys ,my 39 coupe needs the gearbox looking at ,I,m taking it out from the axle end ,I,v undone everything and dropped the axle etc but with two of us pulling and tugging from the rear it won't move ,never done it this way before so I,m wondering if there is a trick to it ,never had a problem removing from the front before ,any advice would be appreciated .thanks. Jim.

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does it move at all? did you take the u-joint cover off? disconnect the brake hose, the speedometer cable? I have had to raise the rear of the trans a little bit for the u-joint bell on the axle to go over the trans crossmember

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Is the engine supported at the rear independent of the trans? If not, it will be in a bind.

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Yup done all that.

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I'm assuming:
The axle is out.
All the bellhousing bolts are out, including the ones that go into the sump pan.
The gear linkages have been removed.
The clutch linkage has been removed.
The rear mounts have been removed.
The rear of the engine is supported under the sump pan.
You have 3" or so of clear space to allow rearward movement.

If all the above is correct, there is no reason why the gearbox shouldn't come out. It has to come out toward the rear. If it seems stuck to the engine try pressing the clutch lever. The action of the release bearing should push the gearbox off the engine.

If in doubt take some pics and post them up.

Mart.

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I once encountered the same prob. Transpires the spigot shaft was seized into the pilot bearing. Can't remember how I got round it; I think I had to undo all the pressure plate bolts and remove the trans with the pp and clutch plate attached by lots of levering etc so the bearing came outta the flywheel. Was real fun!!

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will try again tomorrow Mart ,I reckon I,v done all that ,will double check the clear space ,it won't move an inch,will try the clutch, thanks.

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I,v left two top bell housing bolts in place as the box needs to be stationary when the axle is pulled backwards ,??

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So... what can't you move backwards- the trans or the rear axle assembly?

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You have to rotate the transmission to clear the cross member,to slide the transmission out.

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We had the same problem when removing the transmission from a '36 Pheaton after the rear was totally disconnected and rolled back away from the transmission. With everything disconnected from the transmission it would not come back because the rear trans mount/rear trans bearing retainer was interfering with the center area of the X member. If we could have raised the back of the engine high enough, the transmission would have come back far enough to disconnect from the engine, but we could not raise the engine high enough. What we were able to do was remove the safety wire and six bolts holding the rear trans mount to the rear of the transmission. After this was off, the trans came back far enough to disengage, and we raised it up and out of the passenger compartment. After the transmission was rebuilt, we reversed the above procedure to put it back in, and bolt it back in place.

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Also check the bell housing bolt hidden by the starter drive cover on the right hand side
Lawrie

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The rear axle assembly.

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I see no mention of the clam shell being disconnected, I know it seams obvious but without pictures we're guessing. Also I don't recommend pulling the rear axle and gear box at same time. Pull one at a time.

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I have been following this thread and now I must admit I for one really don't have the slightest idea what you are attempting to do! Are you trying to pull the axle assembly and transmission as a unit? If so, why? Or are you just trying to remove the axle assembly from the transmission and then remove the transmission? Is it the axle assembly or the transmission that won't budge?

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Yes, some clarification please.

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Post # 13

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Yep, that's the part that confused me! Maybe I'm just easily confused. The whole thread and title say transmission, and then in #13 it says rear axle.

I'll try it another way, is the current difficulty not being able to part the torque tube from the transmission?

OK, #8 gives us a clue.

Leaving two bellhousing bolts in place so the axle can pull loose.

If it were me I would have left the transmission alone until the axle assembly was off. Might not matter, but seems like it might put an undo load on things. Anyway think I see where it's headed now.

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Reminds me of "Who's on first"? Hell, I'm STILL trying to figure-out the goal here. Like I tell my son........we need to COMMUNICATE! DD

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Cool Hand Luke! "What we have here is a failure to communicate "