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Nothing too interesting to post lately. Have the seat tracks re-plated and will soon reassemble them.
I might, if time allows, complete the differential today. If so, I'll post that stuff.

Merry Christmas to all! Let's hope 2020 is bright, peaceful and we all stay healthy.

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The photos that I've seen indicate that is has a grease port on the outer race.

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Mike, I would tend to say that all steps even mundane ones you take are interesting due to the exactness and quality of your work.
Merry Christmas to you and " Let's hope 2020 is bright, peaceful and we all stay healthy" that would be the best gift of all! Thanks!

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Merry Christmas to you Mike and all the other '40 Ford lovers. Best looking old Ford that Henry ever built.

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It has been a while, but I think it is a sealed bearing. although I do remember lining up for the fitting.

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Here are a couple of pictures of Skip's bearing. DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1537824109


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1537824109

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Good day fellas!
Now that the seasonal rush is over, I should have a little more time to "play". I'm certain most of you can understand the need to get your hands dirty.
I did manage to get the differential together along with the Columbia overdrive. Went to install the (finished) radius rods and discovered a huge oversight on my part. The right rod was bent where it bolts to the axle housing. ARGGHH! How I missed this is beyond me but I did - a certain "Bozo" moment. That set me back as I really wanted to have this entire assembly tucked beneath the car by now.
Just plain stupid at times :(

Today I am planning on wrapping the springs. I'll try to remember to take a few photos of that process. It's tedious work but in my opinion worth the efforts.

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Managed to get the rims painted yesterday. I wish all the rims I restore were as nice as these. Not a pit nor ding on any of them.

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Hey, Kube, tell us about your setup..... dedicated paint room? dirty tear down area? clean storage area?

Thanks for the update and keep telling us about your process....

The rims looks wonderful

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Dedicated body work / paint area. NOT the best situation but the one I'd found myself in. LOTS of cleaning before any spraying is done.
All of the disassembly is done in another area away from this room. Again, NOT the best situation but I have managed to make it work. Yes, you can read bull headed stubbornness in to that :)

VERY clean storage area.

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Installed the spring perch pins yesterday as well as the spring covers.
I always install NOS (OEM) springs o restore the proper / designed height and handling characteristics to the vehicle. I clean and powder finish the individual leaf's and apply a thin coat of fifth axle grease between each leaf upon assembly.
The KRW tool makes installing the pins a breeze - perhaps 5 minutes each maximum.
The covers were NOS, my last set. Note the spring must be flat in order to install these. The entire job took a bit more than three hours.

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Very cool Kube. You do some impressive work.

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Kube, Happy 2020. Thanks for posting the photos of how you install the spring covers. I never knew how it was done. Sure is a neat spring holder (flattener) device. You sure do a 100 point restoration that a lucky customer will enjoy.

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Somehow I just discovered this thread, so I ushered in 2020 binge reading. Thanks for sharing your expertise and approach to turning out cars that most of us only dream about. Subscribed from here out...

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Guys, thanks for the kind words.
I can't take credit for the spring "jig". It's kind of a copy of the KR Wilson fixture.
The only thing I'd wish I'd done differently is make the bottom channel out of aluminum. Of course, when I made this, I was younger (stronger). It seems the older I get, the heavier stuff becomes. Hmmm???

happy new year to all!

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Mike,
I have a set of shackle bushings to do and was considering making a tool like that out of an old C clamp, or possibly making adapters for my ball joint press.
Do you have any better pictures of it?
Thanks,
Ralph

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Ralph, I'll try to take some nice shots of the tool later today. I have heard of guys making a comparable tool out of a ball joint press. I have not heard how well they'd worked. I'd think they would be fine for a spring but the axle housings and front axle??? I'd think the close proximity of the housing / axle would require a smaller bodied tool such as the KRW.
On occasion, these are offered on eBay. They seem to go in the $250+ range without the adapters. The adapters can be made easy enough if a guy has decent lathe skills.
I am not certain how a C-clamp might work as there needs to be a bushing at the "far end" to center the installation of the pin.

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It has VERY fine looking threads too.....more torque?

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When I did my rear spring on my AV8, I had a new spring, but drive in new pins with a tool/hammer. Not the best way, but spring was warm and I put bushings outside at -30, so it went ok.
But when it came to the axle perches I cheated and used modern slip in bushings made to look like original.

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Ralph, the spring ends are easier because it can open up as pressure is being applied. It is a whole different story on the rear axle housings and front end parts as Kube explained there is less room. I have the KRW tool and remember what a war it was before I got it. I don't think a C clamp frame is ridged enough for doing the hard (solid steel hole areas) the KRW tool is VERY stout.

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Ralph,
Does this help? Let me know please.
Note the bushing on the working end is both internally relived as well as threaded. It gets threaded on to the pin until it bottoms out against the pin body. That way, both the pin and body are pressed simultaneously. The other end fits nearly size for size within the "far end" of the tool. That bushing is relieved so it fits nearly size for size within the perch and spring ends. Of course, the inside of this bushing is relieved to allow the pin to enter it during installation.

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Thank you! Yes that helps. The tool that I used to hammer the bushing in before is kind of the same way it screws onto the stud and then bottoms out on the sleeve so that you press the bushing in all as one piece. Maybe I can modify that and make it work on a screw type press.
I have a friend with a lathe and I believe that he could make the sleeve for the other end without any problems.
These bushings are going in a 1947 front and and as you say the only drawback is getting a tool that will fit with the axle /wishbone assembly in place.

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For what it's worth I once improvised a press for the rear axle perch bushings on the 33. I put the bushes in the spring using a good bench vise. I couldn't do that with the axle so took the vise to the axle. It worked well.

Mart.

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This kit can be modified for many uses. Pushing out & pulling in wheel studs is just one. It may be able to be modified for shackles https://www.harborfreight.com/ball-j...les-63279.html
Great work Kube.

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Nope, I haven't stopped working on this coupe - just not much interesting to report. At this point ALL of the metal work is done. Now it's down to the finish work. The roof was the last part to metal finish - that got completed today.

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why all the grinding on the roof, hail damage?

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Could be metalworking rust pits. I did a lot of that on my avatar roadster, hadn't thought of hail damage. Don't see that in this area.

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Yes!!!

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You got it! Very small rust pits.

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So, how do you treat the small rust spots, spot sandblast or chemically?

I would also like to see more pictures of the tailpan and toolbox replacement. I have that repair to deal with on my '37 coupe.

Thanks for taking us along on this project.

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Zeke,
First, the entire body gets (plastic) bead blasted. The pros of this method? NO warping and NO pitting of the sheet metal. The cons? It won't remove rust. On the plus side, it makes it that much easier to see even the smallest rust spot for proper repair / metal replacement.
I do some sand blasting. Areas like the gutters and other difficult areas to access.
I never use any chemical stripping agents on any part that has lapped sheet metal or other area(s) that may have the (remote) possibility the chemical may not be thoroughly cleansed. Too many times, I've seen chemicals come back to "haunt" an otherwise beautiful paint job. It can take years but it too often can have disastrous effects. In my opinion - why chance it?

I'll see what I can find for the tail pan R&R. I will strongly advise you to remove the old pan by spot facing ALL of the authentic spot welds and removing the lead at the factory seam. Also, only tack the new pan in place and fit both the trunk lid, the trunk latch and both rear fenders before committing to the pan's installation.
The pans I'd purchased from Drake many years ago were very nice and required very little to fit properly. The current pans on the market are "okay" at best and require some serious modification to fit the way I demand of my own work.

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Zeke,
These three photos were all I took of the rear pan installation. What is not shown is the fact I needed to remove approximately 3/16" vertically from both sides of the pan where it bolts to the fenders. Simply put, the repop pan was a tad wider than the authentic pan.
There was also some modification required where the lip the rubber seal goes on meets the adjoining lip of the body. The lip on the repop pan was much taller than the authentic pan. Easy fix but something to watch for.

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Excellent work Mike. Thanks for taking the effort to post up the pics.

Mart.

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Kube, thank you for the additional information. I remembered you had said earlier in the thread about plastic bead blasting the sheet metal. I was not aware of the limitation this process not removing rust.

I also understand your concern about chemical stripping with seams and lapped joints, I have seen the telltale signs of the chemical leaching out of seams years after the body was dipped.

I think my options for a repop tailpan for a 37 coupe are pretty limited, EMS or make it myself. I did find an article in an old V-8 Times issue discussing how a fellow made a repair tail pan panel. That will be a challenge.

Again, thanks for putting this thread together. I enjoy following along.

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As you are no doubt already aware of... EMS makes poopy for the most part. The pan from them might, just might, be a decent starting point. I wish you the best with this.

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I used the EMS pan on a '37 and it is a good starting point. It does take some maneuvering to get it to fit. The lip for the rubber seal is definitely too wide and will need trimming. Unless they have changed, they do not put the bumper iron cutouts in the pan. I'm not sure, but I thought that McPherson College in Kansas was making some panels for '37 in their restoration shop.

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Great work as always, Mike.

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TJ, I will follow up on that tip.

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Gosh Dave, coming from you means a ton to me. Thank you.

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Mike,


You're welcome as it is earned.