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Mister Moose 10-20-2021 03:13 PM

Stuck 1930 instrument light
 

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My instrument light is as seen below.

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It had been working fine (How many threads start out like that!!!) and now the outer housing is stuck. It's usually push in to light the bulb, pull out to turn it off.

I don't want to break it... should I pull harder? Take off the panel and address it from the rear? Will twisting help or will that bend and damage it?

Thanks

mercman from oz 10-20-2021 04:54 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1634760932

This is Mister Moose instrument light.
"I don't want to break it... should I pull harder? Take off the panel and address it from the rear? Will twisting help or will that bend and damage it?"

Badpuppy 10-21-2021 10:16 AM

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I think you're supposed to twist it to a point where it pulls off easily, but I've never found it. I just yank the sucker off and hope for the best. It still works.

jayvee34 10-21-2021 10:50 AM

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I would not force it. Remove it, lots of WD 40, work it in and out, twist if need be,
until it smooth's out. Should work after that without sticking. Might use a little
electrical grease to keep it lubed.

bavArian 10-21-2021 11:05 AM

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The one on mine looks identical to yours and twists ~45°. I'm not 100% sure but I think it's clockwise for on/in and counter clockwise for off/out. Doesn't need much force.

40-A Twins 10-21-2021 11:29 AM

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I bought a repro dash light cover once and it was a little oversized and stuck in the light base. I finally found an original at the next swap meet and it works fine. Those dash lights are so common on e-bay that if you break it you can get another one and have it in a week.

40-A Twins 10-21-2021 11:34 AM

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some found on e-bay

Ivan in southeast va. 10-21-2021 02:29 PM

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Fix it, make sure it works and never use it again. LOL

Synchro909 10-21-2021 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan in southeast va. (Post 2068861)
Fix it, make sure it works and never use it again. LOL

They get too darned hot!

McMimmcs 10-21-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan in southeast va. (Post 2068861)
Fix it, make sure it works and never use it again. LOL

Those are my feelings also. Wayne

J Franklin 10-21-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 2068892)
They get too darned hot!

A good place for an LED!

bavArian 10-21-2021 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J Franklin (Post 2068959)
A good place for an LED!




Do they disperse the light as well as the original bulbs do? The originals light up the speedo quite well. (compared to what you'd expect by looking at that construction :D )

Mister Moose 11-10-2021 06:17 PM

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Update.

After letting it sit long enough that the gremlins got bored and left, with some pull/twist and canting suddenly it popped right out.

Here's a few photos of the innards. I didn't take photos of everything, there is also a spring that pre-loads the socket, and the socket easily comes out of the holder. Everything appears to be original.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1636585543
Side view

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1636585545
Side view, rotated 90 degrees

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1636585706
View of the instrument panel casting the socket fits into. Notice the 3 tabs that guide the socket.

The bulb has its own slot the bayonette pins lock into, and then the socket twists and locks (sort of) in the panel housing. I wanted the hood to be easily operated, so since I was topping off my steering box, Penrite grease/oil seemed like a good choice for something slippery that wouldn't run off. I coated just the first 1/8" of the hood, and pressed/turned until it popped in.

Wow.

It has never worked this well before. Mine operates as bavArian describes, twist/in/click and it's on, twist/out/click and its off. I wouldn't have thought looking at the hood it would work this way as there is only one shallow keyed depression stamped into the hood rim. It's silky, it's easy, and it works perfect. Hope it lasts. And yes, I'm sure the bulb will get hot.

Scratch that off the list!

rotorwrench 11-10-2021 07:31 PM

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I really haven't seen a good original since all the ones I've seen are reproductions. They have a small piercing in the base socket that allows a small part of the piercing to be bent inward to hold the light socket in place in the base. If that little piece of metal shears or wears off then the light socket will come out like the OPs.

All the reproductions have to be twisted a few degrees to turn the light on or off. It seems like it has to be pushed in to turn so that it can disengage one set of bayonet lugs and then engage the other set so that it locks in place for on and for off.

old ugly 11-10-2021 08:43 PM

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they are a nuisance.
i would take the dash off and wire it directly to the tail light wire, then leave the light turned on. every time you turn on any of your lights the dash light comes on.
put an LED in it if it gets hot.

rotorwrench 11-11-2021 09:19 AM

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Another thing is shorting. I had one short out and burn the wire once. It was one of the modern reproductions I'm pretty careful with them now. It also cooked the ammeter.

Patrick L. 11-11-2021 09:29 AM

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Those pesky little gremlins ! You do have to keep them occupied to keep em around.

It doesn't seem like that lite should be an issue on such a low mileage vehicle.
[ smiley face ]

Mister Moose 11-11-2021 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick L. (Post 2075208)
It doesn't seem like that lite should be an issue on such a low mileage vehicle.
[ smiley face ]

For the restoration, I sent out the instrument panel and light hood for chrome plating. When I re-assembled it, it seemed to work fine enough dry fit. It got cranky, and then stuck. With a little lube it's working better than it ever did. So probably my fault more than the car's.

Generally when I'm driving in the dark it's when the days have gotten shorter and it's cooler out. Hot bulbs haven't been an issue yet.


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