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pjjbmax 05-03-2017 09:50 AM

Model A & AA radiator shell the same?
 

Does anyone know if the A & AA radiator shells are the same?

Tiny 05-03-2017 09:55 AM

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The simple answer is no.
28-29 is the same shape but painted black not chrome.
30-31 is a painted shell with no widows peak at the top of the radiator it just goes straight across from side to side

100IH 05-03-2017 10:08 AM

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Plus deeper from front to rear. AA has a thicker core because of more rows of tubes. Also 30 &31 shells are not stainless except for the uncommon deluxe models

pjjbmax 05-03-2017 10:30 AM

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Thanks.
So I need a shell for my 28 AA. If I get a 28/29 Model A shell it would work?

SeaSlugs 05-03-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pjjbmax (Post 1467536)
Thanks.
So I need a shell for my 28 AA. If I get a 28/29 Model A shell it would work?

Yes - factory it would have been painted black plain steel but the stainless car one will fit perfectly.

Chris Haynes 05-04-2017 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaSlugs (Post 1467538)
Yes - factory it would have been painted black plain steel but the stainless car one will fit perfectly.

I have never seen a '28/'29 that was stainless.

Brian SATX 05-04-2017 07:18 AM

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Here is a picture of the 30-31 shell

1928Mik 05-04-2017 01:55 PM

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I MIGHT have a 28-29 AA shell. I will look next time I go over to the garage where I have my A and all parts stored. Might be a week or so......I'll let you know.

CHuDWah 05-04-2017 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian SATX (Post 1467867)
Here is a picture of the 30-31 shell


Maybe it's my monitor but is the background on that badge red :confused:

SeaSlugs 05-04-2017 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Haynes (Post 1467809)
I have never seen a '28/'29 that was stainless.

Im wondering if it was only offered on ambulances/firetrucks/funeral hursts like the 30/31's which over the years since they were identical to 28/29 cars so if it was removed or installed noone will know how it left the factory...

Gunmetal blue2 05-04-2017 07:22 PM

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my 29 town sedan had a stainless steal rad. shell.

SteveB31 05-04-2017 09:58 PM

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Early 1928 cars and AA trucks had a radiator shell with a wrap thru welting (no rivets). Cars were nickel plated, pickups and AA trucks were black painted. Later 1928 radiator shells had riveted welding and the finish was the same. Both of these shells were round under the crank hole cover. 1929 Radiator shells were nearly identical, only the area under the crank hole cover was bell shaped. Still black on commercial vehicles, and nickel on most passenger cars, chrome on Town Cars and some later 1929 cars. In 1930 the radiator was taller, and the grille shells on passenger cars were stainless steel. Pickups and smaller (not AA) commercial vehicles had a steel grille shell paint black. AA trucks had a steel grille shell painted black that was much thicker due to the thicker AA radiator, and it was flat under the emblem ( not peaked). All of these grilles had a blue Ford emblem (in the USA). In 1931 the stainless passenger car shells had the painted recess in the upper portion of the shells, with a stainless emblem. Small commercial vehicles (not AA) had the same steel shell as in 1930 , but with a stainless emblem. AA trucks had the same thicker flat steel shell with a stainless emblem. Ambulances and hearses and a handful of deluxe AA trucks had the same radiator shell , only stainless steel.

SteveB31 05-04-2017 10:02 PM

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No 1928 or 1929 radiator shells were stainless. When Ford designed the 1930
Model A Fords, they decided that the radiator shell, tail light, headlights, cowl band and cowl lights were to be "rustless" steel. Likely this was to save money, since it is cheaper to polish stainless, rather then plate steel.

Neil Wilson 05-05-2017 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSlugs (Post 1468170)
Im wondering if it was only offered on ambulances/firetrucks/funeral hursts like the 30/31's which over the years since they were identical to 28/29 cars so if it was removed or installed noone will know how it left the factory...

Through June 1930, A and AA commercial vehicles had the same shell as the A passenger vehicles (through December 1929). These commercial shell were black painted steel. The A passenger shell was nickel plated steel. The A passenger shell was change in design and was stainless steel starting January 1930.

ricconhan 01-24-2021 08:24 PM

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I was told that my 30 CCPU has a commercial shell and radiator

SteveB31 01-24-2021 08:53 PM

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It has an AA truck radiator shell and likely radiator. Not a pickup truck one

Chris Haynes 01-24-2021 11:32 PM

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Note that while the '28 and '29 appear to be the same there are differences in the stamping around the crank hole.

Dan Partain 01-25-2021 05:38 PM

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In addition to what Chris listed, the holes for the headlight conduits are smaller in the 28 and early 29 shells with the round crank hole cover. The hole size was increased in 29 to accommodate the Twolite headlights and conduits that used 3 wires instead of the 2 wires used on the earlier headlights.


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