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Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 10:56 AM

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Hello fellas. New here to the Ford Barn. I’ve been rebuilding a few carbs for a 2x2 intake I’m swapping into my 52 F2. One carb had the idle air screws modified with a groove cut down the entire length. Never seen this before in my 35 years as a mechanic. Was wondering if this was some old shade tree mechanic’s trick to lean out carb due to no access for parts or what? Anyone seen this before or know why? Good thing I have an abundance of parts.

19Fordy 03-24-2020 11:13 AM

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Interesting./ Hope some one chimes in.

Mart 03-24-2020 11:17 AM

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No, it's a new one on me. But I haven't finished learnin' yet. Welcome to the barn. I'm a 94 guy myself. Never had a Stromberg.

scicala 03-24-2020 11:17 AM

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I have no idea why that was done to the idle mixture screws, other that someone wanting to seat the screws and still be able to idle. Doesn't make sense to me at all.
I guess it's possible the carb was a school educational tool and it was modified to discourage theft. I remember seeing new carbs donated in high school that had a hole drilled through them to make them good for school only.


Sal

40 Deluxe 03-24-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jockeyshift41 (Post 1865609)
Hello fellas. New here to the Ford Barn. I’ve been rebuilding a few carbs for a 2x2 intake I’m swapping into my 52 F2. One carb had the idle air screws modified with a groove cut down the entire length. Never seen this before in my 35 years as a mechanic. Was wondering if this was some old shade tree mechanic’s trick to lean out carb due to no access for parts or what? Anyone seen this before or know why? Good thing I have an abundance of parts.

Probably as you say, a shade tree mechanic's mistaken idea of an "improvement" to the Holley carb because, as you know, "them oil companies paid off those Holley engineers so cars would use more gas!". There sure are a lot of urban myths in this old car hobby, some old, some new! Like, "if you line up all the ring gaps your engine won't start (or run, or burn oil, or ...something)"; or "you need that 4th oil ring to somehow 'stabilize' the piston"; or "the 'W' as in 30W stands for 'Weight' (it actually means 'Winter'); and the list goes on. Anybody got any more favorite myths?

Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 1865615)
Interesting./ Hope some one chimes in.

Yes indeed

Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1865618)
No, it's a new one on me. But I haven't finished learnin' yet. Welcome to the barn. I'm a 94 guy myself. Never had a Stromberg.

Thanks Mart. Every day is a learning experience.

Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe (Post 1865661)
Probably as you say, a shade tree mechanic's mistaken idea of an "improvement" to the Holley carb because, as you know, "them oil companies paid off those Holley engineers so cars would use more gas!". There sure are a lot of urban myths in this old car hobby, some old, some new! Like, "if you line up all the ring gaps your engine won't start (or run, or burn oil, or ...something)"; or "you need that 4th oil ring to somehow 'stabilize' the piston"; or "the 'W' as in 30W stands for 'Weight' (it actually means 'Winter'); and the list goes on. Anybody got any more favorite myths?

I hear ya. Started thinking maybe whoever did it couldn’t get access to a parts source stuck up in the high mountains somewhere and had to come up with a way to lean out the carb. Funny thing is that a black line was painted on the knurled part for clocking it. Guess he thought to fine tune it

41ford1 03-24-2020 05:50 PM

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Compensation for a blown power valve maybe? Strange to say the least.

Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 41ford1 (Post 1865794)
Compensation for a blown power valve maybe? Strange to say the least.

Strange for sure. Someone suggested I try them on a known good carb. Think I’ll try them out tomorrow. Just rebuilt the one on the truck two weeks ago and running nice.

mfirth 03-24-2020 07:14 PM

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41ford1 may have something there, bit i've never seen that either. How about some pics of
your F 2 .
mike

Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mfirth (Post 1865818)
41ford1 may have something there, bit i've never seen that either. How about some pics of
your F 2 .
mike

Sure Mike. No fancy stuff here though

Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 08:30 PM

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Sorry about the sideways pictures. Doing this with my phone not sure why it does that

aussie merc 03-24-2020 08:58 PM

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well ive heard of it but never seen it. The marks on the screws are alignment marks and face upwards when the screws are bottomed out then a groove is cut to give a predetermined permanent opening [ie idle jet] this is used to keep fuel flowing in the carby and keep the bowl supply fresh so stopping secondary carbs fouling up with stale gas when not in use dont know if it works but thats the theory

Jockeyshift41 03-24-2020 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aussie merc (Post 1865866)
well ive heard of it but never seen it. The marks on the screws are alignment marks and face upwards when the screws are bottomed out then a groove is cut to give a predetermined permanent opening [ie idle jet] this is used to keep fuel flowing in the carby and keep the bowl supply fresh so stopping secondary carbs fouling up with stale gas when not in use dont know if it works but thats the theory

Wow, that is some pretty cool hot rodding stuff. Never mind old school more like pre school. Sounds feasible to me. I would just stomp on the accelerator once in a while, more fun. Too bad I’m gonna run two primaries otherwise I would give it a try. Thanks Aussie Merc. How’re you fellas doing down under with this virus situation. People here are hording toilet paper. Whackos.

aussie merc 03-25-2020 12:01 AM

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trust me you dont have a monopoly on those that are a special kind of stupid

mfirth 03-25-2020 07:04 AM

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Al, thanks 4 the pics. Use'n the truck to haul bikes ? Have fun & stay safe.
mike

Jockeyshift41 03-25-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mfirth (Post 1865929)
Al, thanks 4 the pics. Use'n the truck to haul bikes ? Have fun & stay safe.
mike

Yes Mike. Hauling old Harleys with an old ford truck is cool for sure. 1903 was a great year for both. Also why the express bed. 😎


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