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today i over heard mention of the G28 motor.
i'm wondering if anyone has something to say about it.
in regards to comparative specs and functioning abilities.
thanks.

here is one search result.
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGd....com/G28T.html

Check out this site http://www.fordgarage.com/. The G28 engine shows up several places.

Charlie Stephens

What would you like to know?? I have 3 & have been keeping engine numbers & owners for a number of years, There was a number that came to NZ on small grain harvesters, Bull moose fork lifts, etc as staionary engines. no baffels in the pan, alloy pan. solex down draft carb, bosh distrubutor, Same specs as a B well nearly. inserted, full pressure. As a G28T That was on CLAAS combines then could this be the elusive " C " engine, we reffer to them as the Claas engine, Starts with a C.
Derek from a warm spring day. in NZ

thank you both for that info. i guess i'd like to know if anyone has one running in a car.
and i'll bet it'd be rare to see one in the U.S.

Yes there are quite a number in NZ running in A,s, You would have to look 3 times to see they are not B engines unless you know exactly where to look, Welch plug front & rear is the quick give away apart from starter & genny . but A ones fit.

Are the bolts all metric?

Jim. No all imperial & inter change with with B engines, Really they are a German version of a B engine with internal oil pipe to feed mains , Even have Ford in German on the block. They were produced by Ford in Germany i beleive.

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Originally Posted by '29wagon (Post 275609)

I have a G28 engine in the X-31 car. Bill Stipe reworked this engine for me and it made 93 HP on the dyno. It now has 20,000 miles. Great strong touring engine. Runs nice touring with stock A's or will peg the speedo if you are late for happy hour. After 5 years of fun I am pulling the G28 and going back with my warmed over stocker. It is that time in life to go back to a matching numbers car.
Rainmaker Ron

Ron , Any chance of the engine number , Like to compare with known ones here. Thanks,

I just talked to Ron about his, they do sound like great engines but not normal for the US. Keep learning, it always helps.

Eric

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Originally Posted by quickchange (Post 277326)

Ron , Any chance of the engine number , Like to compare with known ones here. Thanks,

Derek, we also have one too. Ours and Ron's all came out of the same batch that was imported by Ken Miller about a decade or so ago. I will see if the serial number is legible.

Ours was supposedly a low/no mileage engine (that had been warehoused by the Forestry??) and while it had standard bore, it also had valve seats in the block. One of those seats was improperly installed (too loose) and it came out of the block when Dad was driving his Coupe back from the Great Race in 1999. We heard the noise and pulled over on the side of the Interstate. Fortunately I was following him and had a complete shop inside my hauler so we dismantled it there on the exit ramp, removed the broken valve seat pieces, ground the end of the valve so it would not open, cleaned everything up and then re-installed the head after removing the spark plug from the #3 cylinder. Dad drove it home from Illinois on the 3 good cylinders. Once it was home, the engine came back out, O/S intake valves along with modern pistons were installed as the original pistons in the block were split skirts. Dad then drove the car with that rebuilt G28T engine for about 1000 miles and then a different engine went into the Coupe. Soon thereafter I installed that G28T engine in a Model A race car (red one below) which I used for several years racing. It received plenty of punishment and high RPMs as I was pulling a 4.33 and 4.56 rear gear ratio on a ½-mile dirt track. Now it is out of that car and just setting. The left-over pieces such as the original downdraft intake manifold, the B-style cylinder head, etc. were recycled and initially used on Pennie's MobilGas speedster. I think the production date on that head is either 1957 or 1959.

My personal opinion is that these engines are a nice novelty with the lack of external main bearing bolts and the aluminum oil pan with the enclosed rear main, --and during the day (a decade or so ago) they were a large improvement over what was available but if Dad & I had it to do all over again today, we personally would probably not go that way again simply because of the good stuff that is available today such as a Stipe Cam, Burlington Crankshaft, Rich's new Rods and Inserts, and decent rear main seals that work. Just my 2 cents...

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Brent , Thankyou for the insight into the one you ran, Have you any info on replacement inserts ??? I have one we pull 5800 with , flathead, another bored 4" plus 40 over with Mc Dowell ohv repo head , about to get some use?? Happy to publish all the engine numbers i have if anyone wishes. Would like to run my flattei at Bonniville if only i could lease, rent, hire or buy a stock body A to run it in ,
Anyone have such a vehicle we can talk ??? Derek from spring day awaiting the USA rugby teams arrival here in sunny Nelson For the world cup. against the Italy.

Hey Derek

You tell be which body style you want and I will make it my mission in life to make one available. We can keep it at Sammy's....

When do the mighty AB's face the French? Looking forward to that with interest

Cheers

Andrew

Andrew, You still got those ferrits over there? Tonite frog legs on the menue ?? 10hours away. already got the big screen warming up, crate of coruba chilling,
re Bonniville , 28 cpe should go faster, less wind drag, spring is here. Derek

Ha! Proper English fry up and coupla pots of tea.

England v Romania and the AB France match both kick off at 7.00am.

Will look out a Coupe, but not a Roadster or an RPU? Worried about your hair?

Will be quite happy with an NZ win - keeps you right side of the draw. But you can't trust the French not to pig it up.

Bon chance mon ami!

Andrew

Andrew, Great night, Great result. Seen those AZ boys, (ferrits) Derek

Happy with them results. Opening salvos yet.

Most of AZ boys still here in UK. Will post pictures later. Been a long day.

Cheers

Andrew

Have spent day with AZ boys (and girls) at John Mould's collection in Reading. Will set up a new thread on that.

Back to the point, 30 years of scrabbling around in the farmyards and hedgerows of East Anglia has only produced these two manifolds which might be G28. What do you think Derek (or others)?

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...s/P1030961.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...s/P1030960.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...s/P1030959.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...s/P1030958.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...s/P1030957.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...s/P1030956.jpg

What is the record for (piston engined) paraffin/kerosene power at Bonneville by the way?

Regards

Andrew

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C (Post 277719)

...and decent rear main seals that work. Just my 2 cents...

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Brent, what rear main seals are you using? Most of the retrofit rear main seals seem to have a hard time getting any respect around here...

Joe

Joe, the one that Ed Barnett manufactures.