The Ford Barn

The Ford Barn (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/index.php)
-   Early V8 (1932-53) (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4)
-   -   ‘32 a400 (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308775)

flatford8 01-12-2022 02:30 PM

‘32 a400
 

I thought this was interesting…..Not much time left…..Bid high…Bid often boys ……Mark
‘32 B400…. Fat fingered the keyboard, now I can’t change it.
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/193...ign=2022-01-12

Krylon32 01-12-2022 02:35 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

? Nothing

DavidG 01-12-2022 02:37 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

You can always add to your post by clicking on the blue 'edit' box, including photos.

petehoovie 01-12-2022 02:45 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

'32 B400

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/193...ign=2022-01-12
https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?ur...1gNpd2.FSw--~D
The B400 convertible sedan is the rarest of all 1932 Ford body styles with approximately 845 produced, including this unrestored, original-condition survivor. This 1932 Ford B400 convertible sedan was exported to Europe by Ford when new and is thought to have been used by ambassadors and diplomats, amongst others, according to the seller, who adds that all components are 1932 Ford.

flatford8 01-12-2022 02:51 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

I was trying to fix the A to a B, and didn’t realize I never put the link in. Thanks Pete!

deuce lover 01-12-2022 03:04 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Its been for sale for awhile.Price to high maybe?

Ronnieroadster 01-12-2022 03:14 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Not a 1932 engine block. Wonder if there's any truth to the 33 engine being installed originally. Or was it a replacement for the 32 engine due to the oil consumption of the 32 engines?
Ronnieroadster

Bored&Stroked 01-12-2022 03:41 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

I'm with you Ronnie - it is not a 32 Block and I've not heard of any 33 blocks being installed in 32's from the factory (DavidG) would be the one to answer that question.

DavidG 01-12-2022 05:10 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Quite the contrary as some very early '33s have/had what we would normally describe as '32 V8 blocks and then there are the brief variants that have provisions in their casting for both the '32 and '33 drain cock locations and no cavities book-ending the timing gear cover.

DavidG 01-12-2022 05:21 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

This one has been for sale on various sites, including ebay, for nearly a year. I guess the seller missed the bubble.

Ronnieroadster 01-12-2022 05:34 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 2094341)
Quite the contrary as some very early '33s have/had what we would normally describe as '32 V8 blocks and then there are the brief variants that have provisions in their casting for both the '32 and '33 drain cock locations and no cavities book-ending the timing gear cover.




David we learn something new every day Thank You.
Now if I ever see a block without the cavities and a dual drain cock location I will understand what the heck I'm looking at. I prize the 1932 V-8 block and assembly In my collection.
Ronnieroadster

Krylon32 01-12-2022 05:51 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

A similar B400 to this sold at the Regeir auction in Kansas for around 50,000. It had the luggage rack plus a trunk I'd never seen on one.

Bored&Stroked 01-12-2022 07:15 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 2094341)
Quite the contrary as some very early '33s have/had what we would normally describe as '32 V8 blocks and then there are the brief variants that have provisions in their casting for both the '32 and '33 drain cock locations and no cavities book-ending the timing gear cover.

I think you misinterpreted my comment: What I said is that I've not seen 33 blocks in 32s - not the other way around.

Have you seen any of these 32/33 "variants" in original 32s . . . or only in 33s?

Bored&Stroked 01-12-2022 07:20 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

I pushed the seller to clarify the drain cock location and provide pictures of the front of the block. He side-stepped my requests while the auction was on . . . even saying the petcocks were straight down (though he said he was not a "32 petcock expert").

Since the end of the auction, he did clarify that the petcocks are at an angle and that he didn't know that was important in looking at 32s. He also said the VIN was stamped on the intake manifold surface of the block - which is not normal in the USA. Maybe they stamped the VIN on the block due to exporting it? Who knows where the truth lies, but I'm not exactly sold on its providence.

It is a cool car . . . would love to have it . . . but not at $99,000 of love. ;)

DavidG 01-12-2022 09:11 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Just the three basic casting variations for North American '32s (right hand dipstick hole in block with separate steady rod brackets, same with integrated steady rod attachments, and left hand dipstick located in oil pan.) In Australia, however, where '32 Job #1 followed North America by five months, some '33 dual pet cock location V8 blocks from Canada were used in local '32 production.

VeryTangled 01-12-2022 10:45 PM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

1 Attachment(s)
This document that the seller offers very interesting to me. It appears there are two 18- numbers. The second one at the bottom starts with BB.

If you need something higher resolution snoop around at the auction listing here and click the photo in question.
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/193...2#&gid=1&pid=3

Are any members able and willing to translate some of this to English if it's enlightening?

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...9&d=1642045001

deuce lover 01-13-2022 12:50 AM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked (Post 2094364)
I think you misinterpreted my comment: What I said is that I've not seen 33 blocks in 32s - not the other way around.

Have you seen any of these 32/33 "variants" in original 32s . . . or only in 33s?


Dale, I know of an early '33 5W that was found (by Norris Pratt)umpteen yrs ago in Pasadena CA that has a '32 block in it(straight down petcocks).Its original to the car.It even has the dealer installed '32 V8 locking hubcap - original to the car.That hubcap is listed on the invoice also. One of the former owners of that coupe was Nick Alexander(of the famous woody collection).My good friend Jake Jacobs bought that car from Nick at one of his open house/swap meets in the 1990's. That car now resides in a collection in MN. Last I saw that car it had 57K miles and still the original paint.Sheldon

Bored&Stroked 01-13-2022 10:39 AM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce lover (Post 2094421)
Dale, I know of an early '33 5W that was found (by Norris Pratt)umpteen yrs ago in Pasadena CA that has a '32 block in it(straight down petcocks).Its original to the car.It even has the dealer installed '32 V8 locking hubcap - original to the car.That hubcap is listed on the invoice also. One of the former owners of that coupe was Nick Alexander(of the famous woody collection).My good friend Jake Jacobs bought that car from Nick at one of his open house/swap meets in the 1990's. That car now resides in a collection in MN. Last I saw that car it had 57K miles and still the original paint.Sheldon

That doesn't surprise me -- we've all seen Ford "use up" parts at the start of the model change to the next year. I'm sure Ford was particularly interested in doing this during the Great Depression . . . trying to save money as much as possible while getting the next model year into full production.

Thanks Sheldon!

rockfla 01-13-2022 11:02 AM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

Perhaps the "tale" told of the "33 block" (as installed at the factory) is MORE believable (for me) IF said B400 had been assembled "overseas" as opposed to here in the USA and "exported". Obviously not an impossibility....... I find it harder to believe the way the tale is told now though!!! Until then I will remain sitting on my tail!!!! The owner has pimped that car more than an New York prostitute.....one would think IF the motive was to "sell" he would have got the "hint" by now. NOW its just a fishing expedition for one P T Barnum spoke of!!!! AT the advertised "ASKING PRICE" anyway. JMO



One thing is for sure, having the frame number would tell you where in the engine log the car fell and just HOW plausible it would have been (given the date) to have "potentially" received a 33 block, NO???

Bored&Stroked 01-13-2022 11:31 AM

Re: ‘32 a400
 

When I contacted him, Ed said that it "was sold" . . . guess we'll see if/when it turns up again.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:40 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.