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hmmech 11-14-2020 12:36 PM

302 eng.W/ c-4 trans to a 53 car
 

what needs to be done for this swap, help needed before i start, like to keep my automatic column shift .

chain drive 11-14-2020 06:32 PM

Re: 302 eng.W/ c-4 trans to a 53 car
 

any one ever run a wilson cam in a y-block?

KULTULZ 11-14-2020 08:07 PM

Re: 302 eng.W/ c-4 trans to a 53 car
 

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JeffB2 11-20-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hmmech (Post 1952008)
what needs to be done for this swap, help needed before i start, like to keep my automatic column shift .

I can walk you through the whole swap using this makes it easy. https://butchscoolstuff.com/52-53-fo...t-kit-2501cpb/ Here are pictures of an install the Ford AOD with it's .67 overdrive is a better choice over the C4 and Lokar makes the linkage to mate up with you Ford-O-Matic column. As you can see here the AOD will sit right on your existing stock transmission cross member by re-drilling the mounting holes the C4 requires fabricating an extension plate also the AOD works better with your stock rear end ratio you will cruise at about 2000 RPM at 70 MPH in overdrive but around 3100 RPM with a C4. The best Donor would be the 302/5.0 from 1984-93 as they also have the correct oil pan for the swap and dipstick location.

JeffB2 11-20-2020 01:20 PM

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This shows the Lokar ACA-1807 linkage to your Ford-O-Matic column

51504bat 11-20-2020 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffB2 (Post 1954242)
This shows the Lokar ACA-1807 linkage to your Ford-O-Matic column


Jeff,
I'm in the process of installing a 302/AOD combo in my '54 Ranch Wagon. I have a '54 automatic column. Will the Lokar ACA-1807 linkage work? Per the sites I looked at it is designed for an AOD using a Chevy column. Thanks.

JeffB2 11-22-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 51504bat (Post 1954334)
Jeff,
I'm in the process of installing a 302/AOD combo in my '54 Ranch Wagon. I have a '54 automatic column. Will the Lokar ACA-1807 linkage work? Per the sites I looked at it is designed for an AOD using a Chevy column. Thanks.

Look at the pictures in Post # 5 that should answer your question,over the years guys have swapped to Ford-O-Matic columns to use the AOD in this case he did admit to adding only a very slight bend. This video may help some https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6YMP2CqD2I Also save these two part videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lod8lHFTKq8&t=123s

paul2748 11-22-2020 08:19 PM

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If you have a question unrelated to the original, start a new post, don't piggyback


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Originally Posted by chain drive (Post 1952136)
any one ever run a wilson cam in a y-block?


hmmech 11-29-2020 05:59 PM

Re: 302 eng.W/ c-4 trans to a 53 car
 

thanks for all your help, i am going to stay with c-4 trans ,my friend pulled his AOD trans out because of too many high gears for street use, i will not be traveling much on freeways

JeffB2 11-29-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hmmech (Post 1957632)
thanks for all your help, i am going to stay with c-4 trans ,my friend pulled his AOD trans out because of too many high gears for street use, i will not be traveling much on freeways

C4 column linkage kit https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...UaAhIxEALw_wcB

JeffB2 11-29-2020 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hmmech (Post 1957632)
thanks for all your help, i am going to stay with c-4 trans ,my friend pulled his AOD trans out because of too many high gears for street use, i will not be traveling much on freeways

"Too many high gears" ? It was shifting too early ? That happens if the rear end ratio is 3:50's or higher numerically EZ fix https://transmissioncenter.net/shop/...d-hirev-79-93/

dmsfrr 11-29-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hmmech (Post 1957632)
thanks for all your help, i am going to stay with c-4 trans ,my friend pulled his AOD trans out because of too many high gears for street use, i will not be traveling much on freeways

His car may have had rear axle gears with lower numbers like 3.10 to 1, or 2.79 to 1.
If he'd like to get rid of the AOD I might be able to force myself to take it off his hands. ;)
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hmmech 12-08-2020 02:37 PM

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I paid for this complete rebuilt 302 ford engine from five star engines and he said he would send it with a rear sump oil pan ,that with my c-4 trans and adapter plates from Bitch's Cool Stuff ,hope it all sits in well

JeffB2 12-10-2020 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hmmech (Post 1960817)
I paid for this complete rebuilt 302 ford engine from five star engines and he said he would send it with a rear sump oil pan ,that with my c-4 trans and adapter plates from Bitch's Cool Stuff ,hope it all sits in well

A recent issue has come up with the donut mounts that Butch's and some other companies use the rubber is now offshore made and they tend to settle in some cases that gets the oil pan too close to the tie rod link. If that happens you can measure the rubber ones and replace or add a polyurethane mount. https://www.energysuspensionparts.co...-isolators.asp


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