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deuce lover 07-26-2020 01:32 AM

Uncle Max Carb Quality
 

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Just want to share this with you members. I sent these super rare French 81's to Max for servicing. Beautiful workmanship.

Terry,OH 07-26-2020 05:40 AM

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Zenith Stromberg, very interesting, thanks for the post.

JWL 07-26-2020 06:03 AM

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Wow! Those are unusual. If the 22.2 ,I think I see, is representative of millimeter venture diameter those are between the 81 and 97 size and something new to me.


Fully agree with Uncle Max being high quality only.
JWL

deuce lover 07-26-2020 06:55 AM

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I learned from Max that the 22.2 in metric translates into 81.When I Googled the 22.2mm to inches it came up .87. I have found the French 97's that are 24.6 and the 48's which are 26.2. Our fond friend Bruce Lancaster got that 24.6 from me a few yrs ago. The 24.6 are even rarer ,seen 1 other in last few yrs.Lots of 26.2's as they were military with a governor .Each carburetor also had a serial number stamped on the flat raised area of the bowl .Last pic shows the side of the bowl detail.FYI,Embossed on the side of the bowl under Zenith/Stromberg is this and below that "fabrique en France" (made in France)



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TomT/Williamsburg 07-26-2020 09:08 AM

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Uncle Max is one super nice guy and he knows his 97s - hope to see you again, soon Max!

All the best,
TomT

Mart 07-26-2020 10:21 AM

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Very nice, and I saw something today I never even knew existed. Thanks.

Bored&Stroked 07-26-2020 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce lover (Post 1913105)
Just want to share this with you members. I sent these super rare French 81's to Max for servicing. Beautiful workmanship.

Really nice work! Looks like you swapped out the linkage to the standard Stromberg 97 style stuff - were the whole bases changed over?

deuce lover 07-26-2020 11:17 AM

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Here is a pic of the bases.I think he reused them as they(81's) have smaller venturi's.They originally have a vacuum port between the adj screws.

uncle max 07-26-2020 11:52 AM

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Some nuances: The bowls have 97 size major venturis; the bases are counterbored from the top to accept the bigger venturi, and use 81 size throttleplates. The bowls have no slot in the powervalve chamber, but instead have two bleed holes - a good idea to prevent crimping the leather of the 81 size accelerator pump. Factory jets are .038" with #69 powervalves. The bare bowl casting was noticeably heavier and weighs 2-1/2 ounces more than an original 81. Probably due to more modern pressure die casting. All the machine work is incredibly precise. Stout, tapered boss for the fuel inlet. Two or three vacuum holes in the base and bowl needed to be plugged for hotrod service. The crude kicker linkage was put in the trash. All in all, challenging and fun!

scicala 07-26-2020 11:53 AM

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Just a note of interest too, is that the French Zenith has nothing to do with the old Zenith Carburetor Company that was in Detroit, MI. (Now in Abbingdon, VA)

Sal

Jeff/Illinois 07-26-2020 08:13 PM

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Nice! Good job on those, good work:)

Only problem I would have would be, they are too nice to get dirtied up I'd display them in an old time Ford Parts Dept. display !

Charlie ny 07-27-2020 02:21 AM

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Ain't no lie........Max is the guy !
Charlie ny

alchemy 07-29-2020 12:03 PM

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Yep, Max knows his 22.2's!


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