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Harold Degand 11-23-2021 01:43 AM

1932 clutch issue
 

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Hi. I changed my 11’’ clutch to a 10.
On the new one, I don’t have the adjusters.
So now, I have to much play in the pedal. The release bearing has a longer travel to push the pressure plate.
Except the fact I have to make a longer pushrod, is there a risk for the bearing guide or something else ?
French flathead, 1939 trans, original chassis and pedal assy.
Thanks

A bones 11-23-2021 09:47 AM

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I apologize for not having the answer.
I would rather find the guy who rebuilds them, and keep the older one.
Your location may make it difficult, but somebody there ( thinking region ) must be capable.

Harold Degand 11-23-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by A bones (Post 2078761)
I apologize for not having the answer.
I would rather find the guy who rebuilds them, and keep the older one.
Your location may make it difficult, but somebody there ( thinking region ) must be capable.

Thanks for your reply.

the « old » one is almost new, when the engine was rebuilt.
Engine come from a french truck. I red some advice on the H.A.M.B.
it is highly recommended to change the 11 to a 10’’.
That’s what I did.Drilled, threaded and balanced the flywheel with the new pressure plate.
I can’t figure put the 11 back on. :(

tubman 11-23-2021 10:29 AM

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Will a 10" even fit in a '32 transmission. I'm no expert, but isn't a 9" as large as you can go without grinding the inside of the transmission case? Someone with more knowledge than I have should jump in here.

Harold Degand 11-23-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tubman (Post 2078784)
Will a 10" even fit in a '32 transmission. I'm no expert, but isn't a 9" as large as you can go without grinding the inside of the transmission case? Someone with more knowledge than I have should jump in here.

No issue about clearance with the case with the 10. It’s a 1939 case.
Not sure with a 11 ?
My problem is the throwout bearing is to far away from the plate.

deuce lover 11-23-2021 10:55 AM

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Harold, You need remove inspection cover and see if the bearing collar has enough slide area. Take a picture if you can and post it.Here is a pic of the parts
https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/...zT/s-l225.webp

Harold Degand 11-23-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover (Post 2078802)
Harold, You need remove inspection cover and see if the bearing collar has enough slide area. Here is a pic of the parts
https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/...zT/s-l225.webp

Can’t open the attached pic

deuce lover 11-23-2021 11:44 AM

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Here.The last pic shows how the assy should look when not depressed.How much play do you have?

rotorwrench 11-23-2021 11:55 AM

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The new reproduction 10" Long type clutches don't have the adjustable fingers. A lot of folks here in the US still send there original clutch covers out for rebuild and adjustment. Fort Wayne Clutch in Indiana is a common place to send them here. This may not be so common in Europe. Even finding a good core in the EU could be challenging. Those old French SUMB military trucks had big truck stuff on them and those 11" jobs are pretty heavy. It really slows the throttle response down.

deuce lover 11-23-2021 11:58 AM

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I think he got the pars from USA.Looks like what Speedway sells.

tubman 11-23-2021 12:18 PM

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Re : Fort Wayne Clutch. Here's a post I made on the H.A.M.B. a couple of months ago :

I just got off the phone with Fort Wayne Clutch and I thought the folks here might be interested on how the conversation went. As a bit of background, I found a core left over from when I changed the clutch in my '51 Ford back in 2016. It was complete, in the original box, and had all of the original paperwork, including a sheet that said it was returnable for a $20 core charge as well as a UPS return label. Since I purchased it five years ago, I called them to make sure the return would go through and they told me that they didn't want it, as they were selling all new components now. This aroused my curiosity, and I asked him where they were able to get new components these days.

He answered, and this is a direct quote : "Oh, some guy named 'Wong Fu'."

Harold Degand 11-23-2021 12:21 PM

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I’ll take some pics ASAP.
Parts come from Mac’s.

We don’t have NAPA stores here in EU. To save money, every order I make takes 3 to 4 months for delivery. I assume that choice but not easy to work with.

deuce lover 11-23-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman (Post 2078832)
Re : Fort Wayne Clutch. Here's a post I made on the H.A.M.B. a couple of months ago :

I just got off the phone with Fort Wayne Clutch and I thought the folks here might be interested on how the conversation went. As a bit of background, I found a core left over from when I changed the clutch in my '51 Ford back in 2016. It was complete, in the original box, and had all of the original paperwork, including a sheet that said it was returnable for a $20 core charge as well as a UPS return label. Since I purchased it five years ago, I called them to make sure the return would go through and they told me that they didn't want it, as they were selling all new components now. This aroused my curiosity, and I asked him where they were able to get new components these days.

He answered, and this is a direct quote : "Oh, some guy named 'Wong Fu'."


Good one tubman !! I have lots of stories of Speedwu and Macwu but this is not the thread for them.

rotorwrench 11-23-2021 08:02 PM

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I have to send my cores to them to get them overhauled. They don't have the old Borg & Beck stuff in stock and no one reproduces them. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell new stuff instead of doing exchanges. The new ones likely cost less than the overhauls. You get what you pay for though. I have never done an exchange with them yet.

Harold Degand 11-23-2021 09:59 PM

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It’s a shame for a seller like Mac’s to sell parts they fit but couldn’t work.
I didn’t notice when I bought it there’s no adjuster.
And when I installed it, I thought it will not be a problem.
Very disappointed.

Harold Degand 11-24-2021 12:07 AM

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Found this. Could it help ?
But it’s for a tractor
https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tra...it---10-spline

Harold Degand 11-24-2021 08:51 AM

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Here are the pics.
#1 space between bearing and plate
#2 when bearing is close the plate. The rod is 1’’ to short
#3 space between bearing and case, bearing against plate

deuce lover 11-24-2021 09:14 AM

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Looks like you have the B-7521A 3 9/16 " long.The 34 is 4 11/16". V8 Ford sales has one that is 4 inches long.Would that work?

Harold Degand 11-24-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover (Post 2079087)
Looks like you have the B-7521A 3 9/16 " long.The 34 is 4 11/16". V8 Ford sales has one that is 4 inches long.Would that work?

I don’t think so. Mine is about 3 1/2 long from one end to the other.

deuce lover 11-24-2021 09:30 AM

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Then you need the 34. Southside Obsolete or ThirdGen might have one. ThirdGen phone number is 844-327-5988.They open at 10:00.


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