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tpenty1 12-17-2019 09:57 AM

12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

I installed a 12 volt starter in my 36 and I want to reduce the RPM so the Bendix drive doesn't hit the flywheel so hard and reduce the noise. I am sure others have this problem.

Ed Pitts 12-17-2019 10:22 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Do mean 12 volt battery?

51 MERC-CT 12-17-2019 10:29 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpenty1 (Post 1832375)
I installed a 12 volt starter in my 36 and I want to reduce the RPM so the Bendix drive doesn't hit the flywheel so hard and reduce the noise. I am sure others have this problem.

Do you have a 12 volt system? :confused:
If you are talking about running the original 6 volt starter on 12 volts then your remedy is to install a 12 volt starter.

Gene1949 12-17-2019 10:29 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Don't know how an early starter is constructed but on my Merc engine I used the housing, field windings, brushes, end plate from a NAPA rebuilt Y block 12 volt starter. (about $50).
Took about 20 minutes and seems to have cut down the rpm

Bored&Stroked 12-17-2019 10:30 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Sounds like you're running a 6V starter on 12V? I used to do this (as it turns the engine over a lot faster than on 6V), but it is hard on starters, hard on the Bendix and hard on flywheel ring gears. Now, if I'm switching the car over to 12V, then I have my original 6V starter reworked with 12V field coils - easy fix if you can find a starter shop in your area.

Bored&Stroked 12-17-2019 10:31 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene1949 (Post 1832382)
Don't know how an early starter is constructed but on my Merc engine I used the housing, field windings, brushes, end plate from a NAPA rebuilt Y block 12 volt starter. (about $50).
Took about 20 minutes and seems to have cut down the rpm

You wouldn't happen to have a part number would yah? :)

Gene1949 12-17-2019 10:41 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

NAPA website
https://www.napaonline.com/en/search...onEnabled=true

any 12 volt Y block

GB SISSON 12-17-2019 10:45 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene1949 (Post 1832382)
Don't know how an early starter is constructed but on my Merc engine I used the housing, field windings, brushes, end plate from a NAPA rebuilt Y block 12 volt starter. (about $50).
Took about 20 minutes and seems to have cut down the rpm


So does that mean you simply installed the flathead's armature in the case of the Y block starter? Sounds like something even I can do. Electrical stuff has always puzzled me the most.

Gene1949 12-17-2019 10:56 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

GB
Yup, cleaned up the 6 volt armature and drive. I have read that the entire 12 volt starter can be used with a slight mod to the drive. Got in a hurry because I was replacing the flywheel and clutch and rebuilding the T-10. Should have done it.
Quote:

So does that mean you simply installed the flathead's armature in the case of the Y block starter? Sounds like something even I can do. Electrical stuff has always puzzled me the most.

glennpm 12-17-2019 11:07 AM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

I used a 1964 Ford Galaxy and put my existing Bendix drive onto it.

From O'Reilly's Auto Parts:

Ultima Starter - Re-manufactured
Part # R813140A Line: ULT
(0) Write a review
Part Fits 1964 Galaxie
$50.99 Each plus $20 core charge


Glenn

Ross F-1 12-17-2019 12:31 PM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

If you are going 12v, I'd recommend getting a gear-reduction "mini-starter". They put the bendix into the front of the ring gear, never any hang-ups. They draw less than half the current of the original style starters, good for battery life. Going on near 15 yrs on mine without a hickup.

Ronnie 12-17-2019 01:11 PM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB SISSON (Post 1832393)
So does that mean you simply installed the flathead's armature in the case of the Y block starter? Sounds like something even I can do. Electrical stuff has always puzzled me the most.




Go here https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...6432&showall=1


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Scotty's 52 F3 12-17-2019 11:42 PM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Ross, is there a mini starter listed for an 8BA or is it listed for another application?

Tinker 12-17-2019 11:44 PM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

Guys just remember tpenty has only posted 9 times. But we always create side action. Yblock to flathead starter?

19Fordy 12-21-2019 12:42 PM

Re: 12 volt starter rpm reduction
 

I hereby request the original poster to repost and clearly explain what it is he needs to know. Somehow, I got lost. Please include pertinent electrical info like:
Is the present electrical system 12V or 6V?
Is the battery 12V or 6V?
Is the starter 12V or 6V?
Do you want to convert your 6V starter to 12V or do you have a 12V
starter you want to convert to 6V?


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