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dmsfrr 06-02-2019 05:43 PM

('55) T-Bird brake pedal
 

The brake pedal on this car wants to trap my right foot under it, more than a bit tricky to lift off of the gas pedal.
It's an automatic so after a couple bad moments I've been driving with my left foot for the brake.

It has power brakes and a good sized (3" x 5.5") *Swift Sure* brake pedal.
I could possibly use the smaller brake pedal for a manual trans car but I'm thinking this car may incorrectly have a brake pedal arm from a manual trans T-Bird, one that's closer to the gas pedal than the original 'automatic' part would have been, IF there are two versions of the pedal arm. ???

Assuming a part number is visible without removing the whole arm from under the dash,
is there one on it and what number should it be?
If there are two versions, is there an easier way to tell them apart?

fordrodsteven 06-02-2019 05:56 PM

Re: ('55) T-Bird brake pedal
 

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According to my parts digest the same pedal arm is used on both standard and automatic shift.

KULTULZ 06-02-2019 06:01 PM

Re: ('55) T-Bird brake pedal
 

Actually both pedals are the same but use different pads.

Are you sure the bushings are good and it is not sitting off to one side? How about accelerator linkage(s)?

Do you know of another BIRD you can compare?

How big are your feet ... :D

dmsfrr 06-02-2019 06:31 PM

Re: ('55) T-Bird brake pedal
 

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Originally Posted by fordrodsteven (Post 1763740)
According to my parts digest the same pedal arm is used on both standard and automatic shift.

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ (Post 1763743)
Actually both pedals are the same but use different pads.
Are you sure the bushings are good and it is not sitting off to one side? How about accelerator linkage(s)?
Do you know of another BIRD you can compare?
How big are your feet ... :D

Thanks to both of you.

The brake pedal arm doesn't twist or wobble side-to-side.
The gas pedal is screwed to what may be original location holes in the floor although that bottom portion of the floor is patched, and the gas pedal rod thru the (original) firewall hole is centered.

Related problems... The big oem steering wheel really messes with leg room (moving it in or out doesn't help much), the carpet under the gas pedal could be flatter and my feet may not be too big, but my shoes are. :rolleyes:

I 'might' be able to find another Bird to look at. I know a couple local guys...
Guess I'll look for the smaller manual trans brake pedal.

Thanks again,
Dennis

Daves55Sedan 06-02-2019 11:10 PM

Re: ('55) T-Bird brake pedal
 

I hate to bring this up but it may be helpful to you. The bracket system under the dash that holds the brake pedal assembly on the 1956 cars has a feature that the '55 cars doesn't. The '56 brake pedal has an adjustable height with the use of a cam-bolt that holds the brake pedal arm to the bracket. I wouldn't think the maximum overall amount of adjustable height would be more than 3/4". But if your brake shoes are adjusted optimally, you should be able to lower the brake pedal the full amount without the pedal hitting the floor during a stop (if you had the '56 bracket assembly).
You might think it strange, but I have been used to braking with my left foot for at least the last 30 years. There's plenty of floor space left of the pedal for your foot to rest on the floor during normal driving.
When your were a kid in driving school, they try to teach you not to brake with your left foot because they fear that you will inadvertently leave your left foot on the pedal while driving and drag the brakes. That is probably good advice for some folks.
I like to leave my right foot resting at the base of the gas pedal at all times (due to the two screws that stick up a little bit at the heel of my shoe). Swapping the right foot back and forth between gas and brake pedals messes up my foot position on the gas pedal base pad every time, so I quit moving my foot long ago and just use my left foot for the brake.

KULTULZ 06-03-2019 12:44 AM

Re: ('55) T-Bird brake pedal
 

Good points Dave.

In addition, there is a return spring that allows the pedal to fully return to rest position. Does your pedal seem to hang too low?

dmsfrr 06-03-2019 11:47 AM

Re: ('55) T-Bird brake pedal
 

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Originally Posted by Daves55Sedan (Post 1763811)
. . . When you were a kid in driving school, they try to teach you not to brake with your left foot because they fear that you will inadvertently leave your left foot on the pedal while driving and drag the brakes. That is probably good advice for some folks.

Also so you don't have to break & re-learn that left foot habit when you drive a stick-shift car. I do occasionally catch myself resting my left foot on the brake pedal, not a good thing. Besides wearing out the brake shoes early that could also leave the brake lights on and folks behind couldn't tell when you're actually stopping and rear-end you.
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Originally Posted by Daves55Sedan (Post 1763811)
. . . I like to leave my right foot resting at the base of the gas pedal at all times (due to the two screws that stick up a little bit at the heel of my shoe). Swapping the right foot back and forth between gas and brake pedals messes up my foot position on the gas pedal base pad every time, so I quit moving my foot long ago and just use my left foot for the brake.

Yes those two screws catching the heel of your right foot don't help much at all. Maybe I'll try some different screws with a smoother head or put a slit in the carpet for the pedal to stick up thru, then the screw heads would be covered.
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Originally Posted by KULTULZ (Post 1763819)
. . . there is a return spring that allows the pedal to fully return to rest position. Does your pedal seem to hang too low?

It does come all the way back up, I just double checked.


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