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oldbird55 03-31-2021 05:40 PM

80 over rebuild
 

Anybody out there know where i can get pistons & rings for a 57 312 t bird 80 over.

Dobie Gillis 03-31-2021 05:47 PM

Re: 80 over rebuild
 

Egge Machine

https://egge.com/part/egg-1000-l2018-8/

darrell 03-31-2021 06:27 PM

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just wondering what size is your engine now.

oldbird55 03-31-2021 06:32 PM

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312

dmsfrr 03-31-2021 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oldbird55 (Post 2002449)
312

I'm guessing darrell was asking if it's been bored oversize already.
...because they usually aren't bored more than needed to clean up the cyl wall surface.

Daves55Sedan 03-31-2021 07:02 PM

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Don't know where I saw it, but it's been my understanding for the past many decades that 60 is the maximum overbore size for a Y-block. Beyond that exposes the cylinder wall to danger of busting through to the water jacket.

dmsfrr 03-31-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Daves55Sedan (Post 2002458)
Don't know where I saw it, but it's been my understanding for the past many decades that 60 is the maximum overbore size for a Y-block. Beyond that exposes the cylinder wall to danger of busting through to the water jacket.

The machine shop I've been using here inspected an extra 312 block I've got, it's already 60 over. The head machinist/owner did some extra looking and finally found an 80 over set of pistons & rings and said he'd be comfortable rebuilding it at that size.
It's an EDB-E with a January '58 date code if that makes a difference.
Some years of blocks may tolerate that amount of over-bore better than others, I don't know.
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darrell 03-31-2021 08:58 PM

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the early blocks suffered less from core shift.

Dobie Gillis 03-31-2021 09:22 PM

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Huh? :confused:

KULTULZ 04-01-2021 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dobie Gillis (Post 2002500)

Huh? :confused:

Thicker and heavier castings. Old school.

darrell 04-01-2021 04:12 AM

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checking between the cylinders the old blocks were more even.less cylinder stagger.the later c1 and c2ae blocks were a lot worse.

Dobie Gillis 04-01-2021 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ (Post 2002538)
Thicker and heavier castings. Old school.

My "Huh?" response was to a spam post in what appeared to Russian. The moderator must have removed it. I understand about bore limits and core shift.

KULTULZ 04-01-2021 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobie Gillis (Post 2002577)

My "Huh?" response was to a spam post in what appeared to Russian. The moderator must have removed it. I understand about bore limits and core shift.

Then that explains it ... :rolleyes:

chain drive 04-01-2021 07:32 PM

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i always wonder about the thickness of walls bought a ultrasonic tester you will be done wondering about the block and learn alot

frnkeore 04-03-2021 12:43 AM

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Sonic testing is the best way to proceed.

FYI, regarding racing applications, John or Geoff Mummert and Joe Crain, don't recommend boring a 312 block, more than .040. It's been said that the cylinder cores are the same on on the 292 & 312. I'm not a Y-block guy so, I have no experience with them, but, Geoff & Joe, have a lot of experience with them. There is one more that can be consulted, Ted Eaton:

https://www.eatonbalancing.com/2000/...cing-articles/

Any of those 4 people, can tell you what is what, on a Y-block, it's how they make there living.

KULTULZ 04-03-2021 07:48 AM

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It's been said that the cylinder cores are the same on on the 292 & 312.
The CASTINGS are the same but each receives differing machining protocol, the 312 being much less accurate. The trick is to find a 292 block and build it to 312 spec., especially if HP.

55blacktie 04-03-2021 10:59 AM

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I think somebody has been drinking some of that corn.

KULTULZ 04-03-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 55blacktie (Post 2003341)

I think somebody has been drinking some of that corn.

Would you care to elaborate or even just reply in a somewhat knowledgeable manner?

KULTULZ 04-04-2021 02:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 55blacktie (Post 2003341)

I think somebody has been drinking some of that corn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KULTULZ (Post 2003359)

Would you care to elaborate or even just reply in a somewhat knowledgeable manner?

Guess not ...

Let's look at this again. You somehow think my statement above about the Y-BLOCK 292/312 CASTING is not correct?

If I am wrong, I am wrong. But bring facts, not potshots.

Now, can you provide anything substantial to the contrary or will I be forced to post new SEX JOKES that seem to disturb you so badly ... :D

KULTULZ 04-05-2021 04:45 PM

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I guess 'ol blacktie got held up yesterday in worship and bible class. Those terrible sex jokes he stumbled across here must have really worn him down.

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