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STAN WHITE 07-19-2021 12:53 PM

12 Volt Bosch blue coil PN-00012
 

I am having a hard time locating this coil. Buba recomends them. Does anyone know where I can buy a couple of them. Other than E Bay ? Thanks stan

tubman 07-19-2021 01:04 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-00012-I...s%2C196&sr=8-5

They say they have 3 left and they are discounted.

51504bat 07-19-2021 01:24 PM

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Lots of VW/Porsche suppliers list them.

Crankster 07-19-2021 07:37 PM

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The Bosch "Blue" coil is nominally 3 ohms, one thing I can't figure out is why Bubba doesn't recommend a coil closer to the OEM value when used with points & switched ballast. Ford used (about) 1.4 ohm coils with an external ballast resistor for many years in 12 volt systems. So for these applications, it would seem like the Bosch "Red" coil of 1.8 ohms would be the logical choice?

STAN WHITE 07-20-2021 09:54 AM

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I am going to use the Blue Coil PN-00012 . As per Buba! I hope he replys !. Now I am concerned ! I hope Buba can make me feel better. Thanks Stan

STAN WHITE 07-20-2021 09:57 AM

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I should have stated that I am running a Harmon & Collins Dual Coil Disributor Stan

STAN WHITE 07-20-2021 09:58 AM

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Also with Bubas Condensers! Stan

tubman 07-20-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by STAN WHITE (Post 2037817)
Also with Bubas Condensers! Stan

Stan, are you sure? I know you bought a couple of condensers from me. I don't think Bubba offers them.

flatjack9 07-20-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crankster (Post 2037683)
The Bosch "Blue" coil is nominally 3 ohms, one thing I can't figure out is why Bubba doesn't recommend a coil closer to the OEM value when used with points & switched ballast. Ford used (about) 1.4 ohm coils with an external ballast resistor for many years in 12 volt systems. So for these applications, it would seem like the Bosch "Red" coil of 1.8 ohms would be the logical choice?



There were no early Fords with a 12 v,. supply. When changing over to 12 volts, this is the coil to use dump and any resistor in the circuit.

35fordtn 07-20-2021 12:35 PM

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I've been using the black 00012 same coil just oil filled instead of epoxy..

flatjack9 07-20-2021 01:26 PM

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I've had good luck with the Beru 12 v. blue coil and it's half the price of the Bosch.

STAN WHITE 07-20-2021 03:31 PM

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Tubman, You are correct, Sorry I bought them from you. As you get older you make more errors. Sorry . Stan

Crankster 07-20-2021 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by flatjack9 (Post 2037839)
There were no early Fords with a 12 v,. supply. When changing over to 12 volts, this is the coil to use dump and any resistor in the circuit.

No there weren't any early Fords with a 12 volt supply, but that really isn't a factor. When Ford did change to 12 volts, they used an ignition coil with an approximately 1.4 ohm primary winding and a divider network utilizing an external ballast of approx 1.5 ohms that only switched in after engine start. See where I'm goin' with that?

A 3 ohm ignition coil could in theory have more difficult cold starts, or possibly when flooded. Ford set up their 12 volt ignitions the way the did for a reason, all cars and trucks from 1957 to 1974 basically. Many other makes and models did exactly the same thing.
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tubman 07-20-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by STAN WHITE (Post 2037901)
Tubman, You are correct, Sorry I bought them from you. As you get older you make more errors. Sorry . Stan

Don't I know it. I just wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the exact parts being used so they can give the best possible advice.

I can't wait to see the finished product!:)

flatjack9 07-20-2021 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crankster (Post 2037949)
No there weren't any early Fords with a 12 volt supply, but that really isn't a factor. When Ford did change to 12 volts, they used an ignition coil with an approximately 1.4 ohm primary winding and a divider network utilizing an external ballast of approx 1.5 ohms that only switched in after engine start. See where I'm goin' with that?

A 3 ohm ignition coil could in theory have more difficult cold starts, or possibly when flooded. Ford set up their 12 volt ignitions the way the did for a reason, all cars and trucks from 1957 to 1974 basically. Many other makes and models did exactly the same thing.
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In theory it could, but it also introduces another part that can be prone to failure.

BUBBAS IGNITION 07-20-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman (Post 2037830)
Stan, are you sure? I know you bought a couple of condensers from me. I don't think Bubba offers them.

I have always stocked the Vertex Magneto condensors. Never seen a defective one ... .36 mfds

BUBBAS IGNITION 07-20-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by STAN WHITE (Post 2037813)
I am going to use the Blue Coil PN-00012 . As per Buba! I hope he replys !. Now I am concerned ! I hope Buba can make me feel better. Thanks Stan

Yep i am hooked on the Bosch blue coil at 3.0 ohms , been buying them from amazon . I have also used the beru blue coil , a little less ohms but a good unit as well......

Crankster 07-20-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by flatjack9 (Post 2037994)
In theory it could, but it also introduces another part that can be prone to failure.

I've heard of Ballast resistors going bad occasionally but I don't think it's a cause for concern. Ford didn't seem to think so either (nor GM or Chrysler etc..) Remember this was THE classic points and condenser wiring circuit for millions and millions of cars and trucks, back when hollow state igntion ruled the roost.

flatjack9 07-20-2021 09:48 PM

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To each his own.

A bones 07-21-2021 08:22 AM

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A failed ballast resistor had me hitchhiking to work one morning. :(


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