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Graeme / New Zealand 09-01-2014 12:46 AM

Stuck starter
 

I went to start the car yesterday and all I got was the noise of the solanoid
working and a clunk. So I went to remove the starter and wound out the long bolts, kept winding till they were out. I ended up with the back half of the starter case still hung up on the ring gear with the front half separated. I took the metal hat off the sump at the back of the starter. It appears the bendix drive is stuck fast. What should I do to try and get it out with out damaging it? I tried rocking the car in both forward and reverse gear without any luck.

Thanks

GB

Old Col 09-01-2014 01:07 AM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Hi Graeme, I had a '48 Ute that did that from time to time, found that in 3rd gear you could usually get it to retract rather than using 1st. Also ended up leaving the end cap off the oilpan so you could get at it with a big shifting spanner or multi grips ( probably get scolded for calling them something that's not US speak :D)......and then it was a simple task to wind the end of the starter backwards and that'd pull the drive back out of mesh with the flywheel....

JSeery 09-01-2014 09:54 AM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Channel-locks?

DD931 09-01-2014 02:02 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Vise-Grips?

V8COOPMAN 09-01-2014 02:25 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

An Aussie "shifting spanner"....metric, no doubt! DD

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.6080...8&pid=15.1&P=0

Bassman/NZ 09-01-2014 02:45 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Eagle beaks.....

Lawson Cox 09-01-2014 02:55 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 938201)
An Aussie "shifting spanner"....metric, no doubt! DD

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.6080...8&pid=15.1&P=0

That's called a suggestible wrench around here.

Karl Wolf 09-01-2014 04:19 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Pull the body of the starter off the armature, use a pair of channel locks to turn it- the armature, that is. Could use a filter removal type wrench. I've done this on the road. I can't remember which direction to turn, but properly motivated, could figure it out.

Next time I'll use the above mentioned third gear to rock it- I forget which direction-.

Karl

supereal 09-01-2014 04:25 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

A sticking starter drive is usually either a faulty Bendix (drive), or bad teeth on the ring gear. You should have a small bracket that mounts to an oil pan bolt and one of the starter thru bolts. It prevents the torsion force of the starter from twisting enough to bind the gear in the flywheel. The bracket is part number 51A-11150 V-8. We get ours from C&G for $7 each.

Graeme / New Zealand 09-02-2014 12:13 AM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Thanks to everyone for their input. I managed to free it by a couple of light hits on the end of the bendix through the inspection hole. I knew i'd hit "paydirt" when I heard it spring back. Supereal I have the little bracket you are talking about. If I need to get a new bendix drive where is the best place to get one? ( not Chinese crapti).

thanks

GB

PS : a mechanic mate of mine calls Chanel-lock pliers "nut f'ers"

A shifting spanner down here is a "crescent"

Frank Miller 09-02-2014 04:58 AM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 938201)
An Aussie "shifting spanner"....metric, no doubt! DD

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.6080...8&pid=15.1&P=0

Looks more like Whitworth.

slowforty 09-02-2014 05:58 AM

Re: Stuck starter
 

You can also put in gear, put in the clutch, let it roll, and engage the clutch, it should come right out.

V8COOPMAN 09-02-2014 11:46 AM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Miller (Post 938607)
Looks more like Whitworth.

That's another whole world unto itself, maybe best left alone! DD

Frank Miller 09-02-2014 01:50 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Actually saw a Whitworth adjustable advertised in a Moss motors catalog if I remember correctly.

Mike51Merc 09-03-2014 07:35 AM

Re: Stuck starter
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawson Cox (Post 938218)
That's called a suggestible wrench around here.

Yes, but do you have left-handed ones?

jack in san diego 09-03-2014 04:22 PM

Re: Stuck starter
 

If your starter ever gets stuck again. Put the car in high gear and rock the car backwards. This has worked for me on many an old Ford. Good luck


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