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Bruce/CT 07-31-2012 09:06 PM

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Hi Barners,

Someone please post the contact information for the gentleman who makes the Ethanol gas resistant Flex lines.
Thanks,
Bruce/CT

Lawson Cox 07-31-2012 09:18 PM

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[email protected], I think. Mighty high priced IMHO

Bruce/CT 07-31-2012 09:33 PM

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Thanks Lawson. High price is one thing but yesterday I watched a car burn to the ground. This hose has to be cheaper AND way less scary.
Bruce

Mike in AZ 07-31-2012 09:37 PM

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whoa!!!....antique car??....Mike

Bruce/CT 08-01-2012 05:49 AM

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I don't think it was antique, Mike. It was sort of hard to tell from the distance they had the road blocked off but it looked like modern. It was a black, charred, smokey mess. If antique I would still be crying for him.
Bruce

G.M. 08-01-2012 09:33 AM

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Lawson you wouldn't want to make them for the price that Bob sells them for. These are not purchased fittings they are all machined in small batches. The volumn is not enough for mass production. The cover material and the Teflon liner are expensive material. Plus assembly and testing each hose before shipping. Plus they are guaranteed for 5 years but will last as long as you have the car. I stopped by his place the other day and he was assembling about 15 of the valve type. Compared to an ice cream cone they are a bargin. G.M.

FL&WVMIKE 08-01-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by G.M. (Post 471552)
Lawson you wouldn't want to make them for the price that Bob sells them for. These are not purchased fittings they are all machined in small batches. The volumn is not enough for mass production. The cover material and the Teflon liner are expensive material. Plus assembly and testing each hose before shipping. Plus they are guaranteed for 5 years but will last as long as you have the car. I stopped by his place the other day and he was assembling about 15 of the valve type. Compared to an ice cream cone they are a bargin. G.M.

"Compared to the price of an ice cream cone". You got that right. I paid over $5.00 for a double dip cone, last Friday evening. I can remember $.05 far a single dip and $.10 for a double dip !
MIKE :)

hardtimes 08-01-2012 01:07 PM

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Hey Mike,
Whoa, $5.00 !! I quit that nasty habit at the same time as I quit cigs when they starting costing approx same same ! Now cheaper taking statins.......Still miss Foster Freeze drive-ins.

JM 35 Sedan 08-01-2012 01:28 PM

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You can make up your own flex line with ethanol resistant hose by salvaging the brass fittings from an old original flex hose, attaching new tubing to these fittings and clamping the hose at both ends with very small hose clamps. BUT by the time you do all of this and have a flex hose that looks nothing like the original, it's a good deal to get your flex hose from Gadgiteer or Gadgeteer (not sure how he spells that). His hoses look good, work well, and you may never have to worry about replacing this hose again. He sells a standard flow version and a check valve version. I have had his standard version on my car for over two years now but picked up a check valve version to see if it helps to eliminate flow back from FP to tank in my '35 fordor. If this car sits for several weeks, or more, I need to do a lot of cranking to get gas back up to carb. I'm thinking a lot of this is actually evaporation of this 10% ethanol gas from the carb fuel bowl. JMO

kelly.ga 08-01-2012 01:48 PM

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It seems to me that I remember reading on here awhile back that you could buy gas lines from your local parts store with the number nine ( 9 ) on it and it was good for ethanol. Having said that I put regular ole gas lines on my 57 Chev 20 years ago and have had no problems yet. I also put regular ole lines on my 40 ford, same result. Maybe I'm just lucky or just waiting for the shoe to drop.

Old Henry 08-01-2012 03:17 PM

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I don't see any risk of gas leaking out of a leaky flex hose since there is never any pressure in it. If anything, there is only a vacuum created by the fuel pump sucking gas through it or gravity trying to pull the gas down out of it when the engine is off. The exception would be if you had an electric pump ahead of the flex hose. Then leakage would be a risk. Otherwise, what you get with a leaky flex hose is air sucked into the hose possibly enough to make the mechanical pump stop pumping.

Bruce/CT 08-01-2012 07:26 PM

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Hi John,
Bob's flex line with the check valve is $10.00 more than the unit without. Not much more. Do you suggest going for the check valve? Seems like the thing to do!
Bruce/CT

37 Coupe 08-01-2012 07:40 PM

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I am happy with the Shewman flex hose as I had issues with ones I had tried from the vendors and fuel pump guru .Never interested me to go with the check valve one though,to me Ford never required it and seems to me it could be a problem down the road if it ever decides to stick shut. Keep it simple.

Pete 08-01-2012 07:48 PM

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You can get everything you need at Summit Racing or Speedway Motors.

Old Henry 08-01-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 37 Coupe (Post 471864)
Never interested me to go with the check valve one though,to me Ford never required it and seems to me it could be a problem down the road if it ever decides to stick shut. Keep it simple.

Should be no need for a check valve in the flex hose since the stock mechanical pump has one in it.

TJ 08-01-2012 09:07 PM

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I'm ROFLMAO about the cost complaint of the Shewman fuel line. People complain about foreign made parts and want things made in the USA. A guy makes a fuel line in the USA that is a good product and someone complains about the high price.You get what you pay for.

JM 35 Sedan 08-01-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce/CT (Post 471853)
Hi John,
Bob's flex line with the check valve is $10.00 more than the unit without. Not much more. Do you suggest going for the check valve? Seems like the thing to do!
Bruce/CT

Hi Bruce, I don't want to tell you to spend $10.00 more for that check valve hose when you may not need it. I do think the non check valve hose is well worth having for peace of mind when you realize what this ethanol gas is doing to other rubber components in the system. I am planning to put a check valve flex hose on my fordor sedan just to see if I get any improvement in time required to get gas back into carburetor bowl after the car sits for a couple weeks or more in the garage. If I see an improvement it stays on there. I'm not that worried about the check valve failing any more than I am the other mechanical components in the gas delivery system between the tank and the carburetor. If I see an improvement with this hose I'll buy more for my other cars.

39portlander 08-02-2012 05:41 AM

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I got hosed, and it's a great handcrafted American made product. I'll work two job's to pay twice as much for something made in the USA, I still believe in American exceptionalism. Nuff Said:D. Scott

The Gates "greenguard" fuel line is made for the ethanol fuel. I have changed my mower/snowthrower and gen. fuel line to the greenguard.

G.M. 08-02-2012 10:26 AM

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Henry read the test for the valves in a Ford fuel pump. Why don't you post the test and the expected results and you will find why a GOOD valve is required. When a Ford valve is good if it leaks pressure down to zero in one or two minutes I wonder what a bad valve looks like? G./M.

1952henry 08-02-2012 10:38 AM

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I have to agree with a previous post. A good made in the USA product is worth a few extra dollars.

peewee2you 08-02-2012 12:17 PM

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TJ, well said. I run one of Gadgiteer Bob Shewman's flex fuel lines on my Ford, I didn't feel it was highly priced, compared to the Vintage Ford repro shops. It is very well made and worth every penny. Don't be a skin flint all your life. You can't take it with you and your wife's going to spend it all after your gone anyways.

Old Henry 08-02-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by G.M. (Post 472117)
Henry read the test for the valves in a Ford fuel pump. Why don't you post the test and the expected results and you will find why a GOOD valve is required. When a Ford valve is good if it leaks pressure down to zero in one or two minutes I wonder what a bad valve looks like? G./M.

So, G.M., what do your tests show. How long does Gagiteer's check valve hold the pressure compared to a properly working stock fuel pump on its own?

G.M. 08-02-2012 02:56 PM

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I only left the gauge on 4 or 5 hours and was still holding pressure. After a week or 2 the cars I have with them on start right up. You like research. look up Fords test and the results. G.M.

G.M. 08-02-2012 03:07 PM

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Lawson I just talked to gadgiteer a few minutes ago and told him what you said. He said he ordered some 9/16" round brass this morning and it went up over $40.00 a bar. I guess he eat's that cone. G.M.

Old Henry 08-02-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by G.M. (Post 472246)
I only left the gauge on 4 or 5 hours and was still holding pressure. After a week or 2 the cars I have with them on start right up. You like research. look up Fords test and the results. G.M.


Sorry. I couldn't find the test results you're talking about. How 'bout you posting them or at least the link to them if you think it would be helpful? It always adds credibility to an opinion to have it backed up by research/testing.

I did test my stock pump and it was within the specs you said it should be.

I never go more than a day or two without driving and have a secondary check valve in my electric pump so never have a problem starting.

wyonorm 08-03-2012 07:47 AM

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Customer service at Dennis Carpenter just told me their fuel line is made for ethanol gas. It costs $9.00.

Lawson Cox 08-03-2012 11:01 AM

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With whom did you speak?

Bill S 08-03-2012 07:53 PM

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I went to the local parts store. Not chain type store. He also sells racing fuel. Got a fuel line. Its been over 3 years. No problem

BILL WZOREK 08-04-2012 04:29 AM

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Went to my local NAPA store last weekend,for some 5/16" ethanol safe flex fuel line.
( before some one gets a weggie saying cars don't use 5/16" gas lines) It was for a little elec transfer pump I use from time to time.
Well any how was told they had a recall on the line and would not be back in stock for a few
I did not ask if that was the only size that was recalled or not.

BILL W

ken ct 08-04-2012 05:01 AM

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Bill some time post 49 ford went to 5/16 gas line,not sure if all the way back to the tank but surely from carb to pump.ken ct.

BILL WZOREK 08-04-2012 05:39 AM

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THANKS KEN ct :rolleyes::rolleyes:
I got all the way to Aug. 4th this year with out even 1 mistake till "NOW" :rolleyes:
LOL LOL
All kidding aside I did not know that.Now I file it in the memory bank & hope I remember it when I need it.

BILL W

wyonorm 08-04-2012 06:55 AM

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According to Dennis Carpenter's customer service, their fuel hoses are ethanol ressistant. It costs $9.00.

wyonorm 08-04-2012 07:00 AM

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I don't know. It was some guy at customer service.

FL&WVMIKE 08-04-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by peewee2you (Post 472174)
TJ, well said. I run one of Gadgiteer Bob Shewman's flex fuel lines on my Ford, I didn't feel it was highly priced, compared to the Vintage Ford repro shops. It is very well made and worth every penny. Don't be a skin flint all your life. You can't take it with you and your wife's going to spend it all after your gone anyways.

peewee2you .................
I'm always more curious about what my wife's next husband would spend it on. LOL
MIKE :)

G.M. 08-04-2012 08:17 AM

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The test in the Ford service bulletins is CPR 9350 A. This is on the input side of the pump. I use the output side with a gauge in the line between the pump and carb. I also used a shut off valve between the gauge and carb. I run the engine, shut the valve off and then turn the engine off. This eliminates the carb float as the leak and only the pump valve and diaphram is being tested. The Ford test says if it holds vacume, in may case pressure for ONE MINUTE before leaking to zero the pump is GOOD??? I question just how good this is?? With gadgiteers flex hose with the built in check valve it holds pressure for hours not one minute. G.M.

40larry 05-02-2026 06:12 PM

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Are the ethanol resistant flex hoses still available ? If so what is the contact info ?
40larry

ford38v8 05-02-2026 09:38 PM

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Getting nostalgic here, reading posts from those who are gone.


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