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My 34 Ford 04-03-2012 10:25 AM

Auto Insurance
 

Please give me some advice on auto insurance. I know that there are only a few insurance companies that insure old cars and that the insurance game changes pretty fast so who are the best companies today? I am ready to start driving my 34 2dr and would welcome your advice. This car will only be driven a few hundred miles at most this year but I want to be sure that I insure with a good company and get the right coverage. Thanks for your advice.

Vic Piano 04-03-2012 10:30 AM

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I've been with JC Taylor Insurance for 40 years, excellent coverage, service and pricing.

4dFord/SC 04-03-2012 10:51 AM

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Hagerty's good, too. Been with them eight years, and fortunately no claims. However, a friend whose '50 Tudor was t-boned speaks very highly of them--they even paid him for his own time in making repairs.

Krylon32 04-03-2012 11:17 AM

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I've got 4 cars insured with Grundy. No claims so can't report on that??

alv 04-03-2012 11:33 AM

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have grundy great company had a claim , got an estimate and they sent a check right away, never even came and looked at the car.

mike in tucson 04-03-2012 12:23 PM

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Not necessarily true that few insurance companies will insure your car. State Farm, for instance, insured my 39 Ford at a really cheap rate. HOWEVER, their coverage is not "agreed value" so I would have perhaps lost if the car was stolen while under their coverage. When the car was gone thru, the value increased sharply and I transferred to PHLY (formerly Grundy) with agreed value policy. Talk to your current agent and ask about your situation....if you car is a driver and you dont consider it to be very valuable, a standard policy might be applicable. If you car is worth $$$ (a 34 probably is) call a few of the people in the game and get some quotes.....Haggerty and PHLY give online quotes. Bump the liability up to the max, it is very cheap to do.
Mike

kp4150 04-03-2012 02:00 PM

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I'm using Condon-Skelly. Good rates based on agreed value, but restricted to recreational uses -- probably not best for 'daily drivers.'

sanborn 04-03-2012 03:50 PM

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All of our vehicles/home/etc. are insured with State Farm. They don't take your "stated value" without an itemized appraisal from a competent appraiser. But, when they see the numbers----they accept the "stated value".

They do offer a unique coverage called "under insured". My local agent stated she has several Bentleys insured this way----because a $25K limit on many drivers policies would not even begin to repair a new Bentley.

I think your service depends upon the local agent.

Pat/Ohio 04-03-2012 08:26 PM

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I have switched to Heacock Classic Car Ins. recently after a little research...rates etc. Hope I never need them!

Pat

paul2748 04-03-2012 08:49 PM

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Be aware the JC Taylor and Grundy are not the same insurance companies of old. Both have changed hands over the last few years.

The people that took over JC Taylor seem to know nothing about old cars, at least as a friend of mine is concerned. He had a 57 Bird that was hit by a semi and sustained a lot of damage. He had a very hard time convincing Taylor that it was not a RV that the new company specialized in. Then when they sent an adjuster out he really low balled the damage (either through ignorance or on purpose) so much that my friend had to get a lawyer to get compensated. I don't know if they have cleaned up thier act yet.

Grundy was bought out about a year ago and from what I heard they are not very good.

tierod 04-03-2012 09:44 PM

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Have used Hagerty over the years for several cars. Had good luck including using their road svc coverage for a flatbed ride for my broken pu

Vic Piano 04-04-2012 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by paul2748 (Post 399943)
Be aware the JC Taylor and Grundy are not the same insurance companies of old. Both have changed hands over the last few years.

The people that took over JC Taylor seem to know nothing about old cars, at least as a friend of mine is concerned. He had a 57 Bird that was hit by a semi and sustained a lot of damage. He had a very hard time convincing Taylor that it was not a RV that the new company specialized in. Then when they sent an adjuster out he really low balled the damage (either through ignorance or on purpose) so much that my friend had to get a lawyer to get compensated. I don't know if they have cleaned up thier act yet.

Grundy was bought out about a year ago and from what I heard they are not very good.

That's too bad about your friend and his T-Bird. I had a '63 Studebaker Avanti that got wrecked, I had the car covered for $20,000 and got a check from JC Taylor for the full amount in a week, they also provided an Attorney at no cost to me. I know they've changed ownership but I have not had any trouble with them.:)

Robert/Texas 04-04-2012 06:39 AM

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I had JC Taylor insurance on my cars for over 20 years. I had one claim with them, the right rear fender on my '34 roadster was bent up badly in a Walmart parking lot and they paid for fixing it without any questions. I changed to Hagerty last year because the rates were about $150 less (6 cars) and they offered free towing insurance (10 miles I think). Last year when I was stranded in a Fredericksburg, Texas motel parking lot during the 1000 mile Texas tour with a bad fuel pump they sent a wrecker out and the man pulled the car backwards onto the wrecker platform so that we could push it into my trailer. The only problem was that at first they said that the car was not covered by my policy as it was over 25 years old. It turned out that the same outfit that serves Hagerty serves my other towing policy (FMCA motorhome insurance) and after this was figured out, all went well. I have since renewed the Hagerty policy.

Cecil/WV 04-04-2012 06:40 AM

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I used to have JC Taylor for many years and had one claim that was handled very well. A friend of mine had a '49 Ford that he just finished restoration on last spring and totaled it in early summer. He was insured with Taylor and when he insured it, they tried to get him to get $10,000.00 more than he actually put on it. When they settled the claim, they paid hos son to remove the front clip to better see the damage and then paid him the insured amount with no problem.

I changed to Hagerty in 2008 because of more flexibility in when I could drive my cars and it was a bit cheaper and they insured my wife's 2001 Mustang conv. I have had a windshield and one other claim with them with no problems.

Check them all out and choose the one that sounds the best for your wants and needs.

31chevy 04-04-2012 06:51 AM

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I have 3 cars with Hagerty. Friend of mine had his 71 Torino totaled & they gave him the agreed value plus let him keep the car. Nice people to do business with.
Gary.

Bruno 04-04-2012 08:12 AM

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Been with J. C. Taylor for 12 years on my 1952 F1 - have never had a claim so I cannot speak to that part but I think their rates and coverages are very good.

desotoguy 04-07-2012 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paul2748 (Post 399943)
Be aware the JC Taylor and Grundy are not the same insurance companies of old. Both have changed hands over the last few years.

The people that took over JC Taylor seem to know nothing about old cars, at least as a friend of mine is concerned. He had a 57 Bird that was hit by a semi and sustained a lot of damage. He had a very hard time convincing Taylor that it was not a RV that the new company specialized in. Then when they sent an adjuster out he really low balled the damage (either through ignorance or on purpose) so much that my friend had to get a lawyer to get compensated. I don't know if they have cleaned up thier act yet.

Grundy was bought out about a year ago and from what I heard they are not very good.

If the Tbird was hit by a semi, why didn't the semi libiality cover the repair?

barnstuf 04-07-2012 09:40 AM

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I have been insured by Grundy for many years and have never had a claim. I am in Massachusetts where liability insurance is compulsory. I paid my Grundy policy bill the day I received it, yet two months later I received a letter from them that they had notified the Registry of Motor Vehicles that the liability insurance on my cars was to be cancelled in 10 days for non payment and therefore my registrations would be revoked. I phoned Grundy and told them I had a cancelled check for the payment. I mailed them a photocopy of the cancelled check, the cancellation was revoked, but they did not apologize for their error and this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I have heard through other sources that their record keeping is not well organized. On another note I have a friend who applied to Grundy for coverage on three antique cars, all being original condition survivors, a perfect driving record, was refused coverage as his cars were not restored. They are not what they used to be.

rotorwrench 04-07-2012 10:24 AM

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Many of those firms were probably started by folks who had been in the insurance business and owned older antique or classis cars. They saw the niche market that was being neglected and moved into the business of old car insurance. When the original owners retire and sell their stock out, the companies that purchase them seldom have the same idea about how to run the program. Many are only purchasing them for the revenue income for a long enough period to transfer it to a different buisness like RVs & motorcycles. They don't continue policy that doesn't bring large profits.

It's the American way, sad to say.

wspiker 04-07-2012 09:03 PM

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Hagerty!!!!! You can't lose.

19Fordy 04-08-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by alv (Post 399568)
have grundy great company had a claim , got an estimate and they sent a check right away, never even came and looked at the car.

Grundy will no longer insure you if you want to insure just one vehicle. You must have several. This has been discussed at length on HAMB. I called Grundy and was told the same thing.

JM 35 Sedan 04-08-2012 10:59 AM

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I've been with Grundy for five years. As far back as I can remember the underwriter for Grundy has been Philadelphia Indemnity. Last year I had my first ever claim. They sent a very knowledgeable old car appraiser to assess the damage and write up the claim. I had a check arrive in the mail about three days later. They followed up with a phone call to make sure I was happy with the assessment, the amount of payment, and quality of work done buy the repair shop. I just sent in payment to renew my policy before the end of April. I'm very happy with Grundy and surprised to read the negative comments from other Barner's. Perhaps their policy's are different due to different laws in different States? I presently have just one original/stock early Flathead powered Ford V8 insured with them but may be adding another basically stock 5w coupe (my Avatar car) before the end of 2012.

paul2748 04-08-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by desotoguy (Post 402078)
If the Tbird was hit by a semi, why didn't the semi libiality cover the repair?

I don't know the particulars on this, but on my regular cars I have gone through my insurance company rather than the other persons (who was at fault) in order to get the car repaired and let the insurance co's fight it out (subrogation I believe its called)

Hotrodladycrusr 04-09-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by geri.hilton (Post 401967)
I heard people recommend AARP old car insurance. How it works is, if you’re age 50 or over, you can join the AARP (that has a lot of other discounts for the retired too). The AARP has a deal with The Hartford Insurance Company that enables them to offer group rates to their members. Good coverage at affordable prices. So I’d say get a quote from them.

You smell like SPAM

Cecil/WV 04-10-2012 09:42 AM

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I wouldn't buy anything from AARP!!!

Highboy34 04-10-2012 04:29 PM

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I've been with Hagerty for about 5 years. They cover a race trailer, road race car and touring sports car, agreed value. No claims, no coverage changes and no problems. But suddenly this year, my rate went up about 6%. I asked why and was told that happened, "in a few states," and that it was just, "... a normal rate increase." Nice people but I was disappointed to see the rates go up.

sanborn 04-10-2012 04:47 PM

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Jeff/Illinois----you are correct. The correct term is "Agreed Value". In my case, my cars are street rods---not antiques. And it took a while for their people to understand some very rare pieces(components) we have.

jimd 05-02-2012 01:32 PM

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I am also investigating insurance for my ford pickup. Don't want to steal this thread but curious of following question. Do you need to inform the company that insures your daily vehicles if/when you use a 2nd company like Haggerty/Grundy etc for antiques?

Thanks

Jim

B-O-B 05-02-2012 04:31 PM

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I don't think it's any of their business who you insure your old cars with. I have 5 cars with grundy(now Philsdelhia Indemnity) & just added my 85 GMC 2500 to the policy for a whopping 33.00. I am also working on a claim for the 32 roadster from last fathers day when I hit a large racoon & dig damage to the right front. I notified them (philadelphis indemnity) when I was in Az & they wanted to send an adjuster out but I told them the car was not with me but in Or. They said they would put the caim in a suspence file & notify them when I got back to Or. I called yesterday as I'm in Or. now & they reopened the claim & said they would have an adjuster call to come view the car. I'm waiting on his call. I asked what was the deal with them & Grundy & she said everything is the same except for customer service & for that to call Grundy. They are still insuring classic vehicles & if I remember Grundy used them to underwrite the insurance they sold.


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