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How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I would like to start a thread, that was the original idea of "al's28/33", from Redwood City, Ca., in The Model "A" Forum.
.....HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THE COMPLETE HISTORY OF YOUR V8, SINCE NEW ? ..... MIKE :) |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I have a 53 Ford I bought from the original owner. She lives in Colrain, NC.
I also have a 36 Ford 5W coupe that one lady bought new and her niece inherited the car in 1996 and I purchased the car from the niece last year. Charles |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? This is going to be a short thread
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? My 39 Sedan Delivery was bought new by a company in Sunbury PA called "Real French Cleaners".
During the war it was sold to the Stahl family and used to deliver produce from their farm. In 1948 Mr Stahl got married. His new wife had enough of farm living so the '39 was parked in a shed on the farm and they bought a house in near by Northumberland, PA. at some point it was moved from the farm to a small garage in Northumberland. A year or so ago they moved it out of the shed and parked it in the back yard of a 2nd house in order to sell the first place. Eventually they came to the realization that it was deteriorating outside... so they listed it for sale. I bought it in september of last year.... and plan to keep it! Zach http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/v...elivery/39.jpg |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? Not a V8 but our '39 Lincoln Zephyr V-12. When we bought the Zephyr I contacted the LZOC and provided the VIN and Body#'s, the club published the information in their monthly magazine and as a result, I subsequently received a phone call from the cars second owner. He bought the Zephyr from the original owner, a Doctor that lived on the East end of Long Island (where he purchased the car new, from a local Ford-Lincoln-Mercury dealer) The second owner got the car in 1948 and drove it from Long Island to Lakeland, Florida where he went to college. He told me that he worked at the Tampa Lincoln Agency as a mechanic and in '52 he rebuilt the '40 Zephyr V-12 that is in the car. The transmission is original to the car with the VIN# stamped into the top of the transmission. He told me that the original owner had served as an Air Raid Warden during the war (under the rear seat I found a windshield plaque that says Civil Defense Suffolk County, NY, with instructions on the back stating what to do in the event of an air raid... I also contacted the "Henry Ford", provided the VIN and Body #'s and they sent me the "Build Sheet" on our '39 LZ Convertible Club Coupe. The car left the factory on April 22, 1939 to be delivered to the dealership on Long Island. The cars build sheet list only two options, a black convertible top and red leather interior. I found this odd because the car was also equipped with a hot air heater (not a dealer installation on the Zephyr). Right now we've got the rear and transmission out of the car to repair the transmission and install the Columbia rear. Hopefully she'll be back on the road in time for the "Barner's Bash", March 16th to 18th. Vic
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I have owned my '36 Ford Deluxe 5 win cpe since September, 1952. For all practical purposes I am the second owner, however, two friends of mine briefly owned car..
The whole story: My High School Wood Shop, Mr Blondel, purchased the car new in Idaho Falls, ID. When I was in the 9th grade my friends and I would admire the car, it was always parked in the same spot, adjacent to the vocational shops at our school. The car was black with an apple green pin stripe. At the time I did not harbor many thoughts about owning the car. My father always had Chevy's, so Fords were not a big thing around our house. Actually Fords were generally shunned in Eastern Idaho because they were very hard to start at 30 below zero where-as the Chevy stove bolt six would start every time. In early 1952 a friend of mine was working in a Conogo gas station across the street from the school.. Mr. Blondel came into the station driving a brand new '52 Ford, Dean asked Mr. Blondel what he had done with the '36 Ford, Mr. Blondel responded that he was going to sell the car... Dean quickly made a deal to buy the '36. Dean only had the car for a few short months when he decided to sell it.. He had fallen love with a girl, quitting school to get married... The new wife did not like the '36. Dean sold the car to another classmate of mine.. Bob took the car home, not telling his father what he had done.. When Bob's dad found out what Bob had done, he had a fit, refusing to place insurance on the car which meant Bob could not drive the Ford. Bob's dad bought Bob a new Chevy to drive, he felt the '36 Ford was unsafe with it's mechanical brakes. A couple of months passed, summer was over and it was getting close to the start of school.. I had been driving a '42 Chevy which blew a rod. My uncle gave me a '41 Ford to use until I could get the Chevy going, the Ford got hot and cracked the block so I was a foot. A friend of mine had a '41 Ford conv. that had lost the rear end, he said I could have the car if I wanted it.. In a few short hours I had the trans/diff out of my '41 and into the '41 conv... I had wheels again. It was now late September and staring to get frosty in Idaho... Not a good place to have a convertible.. My friend Bob had been gone for the summer, for some unknown reason I stopped by his house to see if he had come home yet. He had not. While talking to Bob's dad I noted that the '36 was sitting in the back yard with weeds up to the door handles. I inquired about the car, Bob's dad said that he had been meaning to call the local wrecking yard to come and pick the car up.. In short order I made a deal to buy the car for $125. I went after a battery and some gas.. In short order the car was running... I drove it home, cleaned it up and hit the streets... The car had a little over 51k on the clock... A fifty-nine year love affair with the car had started. |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I have fragments. I know my Uncle owned it from !961 till I got it. I know who he bought it from..... and I know who owned it in th emid 40's (found thier license in the car. Other than that.....no clue.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? Enjoying the stories guys.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? My 35 Cabriolet was given to the original owner as a high school graduation present. He kept it until he was 83 yrs old and sold it to the guy I bought it from. I have the original sales receipt and a copy of the first "pink slip".
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? '49 Station Wagon - original owner from Great Falls, Mt. She left it to the C.M. Russell Museum also in Great Falls. After several years, the museum decided to sell it, and I got involved. Ended sold to a gentlemen in Jupiter, Fla. After a few years of ownership, he wanted to sell it and over 6 months we talked about it, and I brought it out here to the west coast, northern California. A few changes, overall original.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? Good thinking Mike, I forgot to post my question here too since I have a '33 pickup. I got it in 2004 from Dixon, Illinois and it was supposedly changed out from a Model "B" 4 cylinder by Rich Bickle of NASCAR fame.
It has a beafy "helper" spring over the rear axle and the previous owner told me it was used by the US Forest Service in Wisconsin. |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I had bought my 40 coupe from the family of the original purchaser. Quite a long story but it has the sales slip, confirmation letter from Ford, etc. with it. Probably the best 40 I've ever started with.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? My 1949 F1 was built/assembled at the Ford Seaview plant, Wellington, New Zealand, 25 km from where I now live. I have the original ownership papers which indicate that it was first registered on 23 March 1950 to a gentleman in Manunui. It was registered to its second owner, a farmer in Taumaranui, on May 29 1951. He had moved to Kuku, 10 km south of my home town Levin, at the time I bought it in August 1973, aged 15.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? One of my 51 Mercs was owned by a little old lady that only drove it to the post office & store then to church on Sundays. It only had 26,000 miles on it when my pop bought it in 1954. My other 51 was owned by a lady from Clovis, NM whose father gave it to her sometime after he bought it new. She kept the records on it clear up into the early 70s when it likely was used by her children or grand children as a bumper car. The fellow I purchased it from bought it from her and never really did anything with it except store it. After I tryed to get it running I found out why. The bores are still standard after one re-ring & valve job done in 1963. The poor thing was plum run into the ground back in the early 90s. I've never seen rings worn as bad as these. It finally just got so low on compression that it would no longer run. The speedo was replaced back in the 60s so I have no idea how many miles are on it. I'd venture a guess at several hundred thousand from its condition. Pretty good shape though since NM is pretty dry and the Mercs are heavily built. My Kansas car has about the same rust as it does. The two came out of the Saint Louis, Mo. plant about 2-weeks apart.
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My truck was purchased new by a local farm in 1947.
Since 1974 I've been its second owner. The distance by road from the first owner to my place is 8.5 miles. Shorter as the crow flies. It was a well used working farm truck when I got it and it is still working. Tom |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I don't know who owned my 39 DeLuxe coupe before me but I've owned it for the past fifty.
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My 40 Ford was bought new by Ira Relyea in Poughtkeepsie, NY where I lived. He had an accident an the insurance company totalled it. My friend Bobby Rose bought it, repaired it and drove it for a year or two and then sold it to me for $400. I still have it. Here's a photo of it after the accident.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? My dad bought the engine in mine new in 1948. I learned to drive with it. Still drivin' it.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I bought my '38 Convertible Coupe from an oldster in Clayton, Ca, who had found it without engine at the back of a used car lot in Alameda California, in 1963. He did a restoration that included correct upholstery and paint color, and a great 59L block engine. At some point (he didn't remember), it had also recieved a differential transplant, having 4.44 parade gears, which of course have since been traded out for 3.78 gears. During my various rebuilds, I found a political card inside the passenger door dating from 1938 touting a candidate for Mayor in Alameda, which I believe confirms the car never left that city since new. That's as far as I was able to trace it.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? Mikey , The best I can do with my own cars is back to the mid 40's BUT . My dads oldest brother's best friend has a 32 dlx V-8 2d that he bought in the late 40's from the lady school teacher that bought it new .Many years ago when I was there driving a dusty-dirty old 33 he showed me the paperwork that came with the 32 & I'm pretty sure the original sales stuff was there . I was in his good graces right off the bat with the stock 33 . My uncle passed on a few years ago but the owner of the 32 is still alive but is not doing well in his mid 90's . His family doesn't want to sell it . Lotta years have gone by since 1932 !!!!!
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I found and bought my 35 roadster in Iowa,I liver in Ky so a pretty good haul. I traced it back to one of the Carolinas,It found it's way to Iowa in a divorce.The story I got in So Carolinay was that it was a Fire Chiefs car bought new for the fire department. Doing the body off restoration,I found red paint that could only have gotten there at theyyfactory,this is my story and am sticking to it.I have had the Roadster about 13yrs .Roughly 2 yrs to restore. If you ever bought any Birdseed,the guy I got the Roadster from probally made it,he makes and sells all over the world.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I bought my 1934 Ford pickup from Vern Hanesalo who farmed northeast of Lakota, North Dakota. He bought it from the Ford dealer in Michigan, North Dakota when it was new. I bought the truck from Vern in 1974, when it was just sitting there in his scrap heap. I rented a flatbed trailer, dragged the truck onto the trailer and brought it to my mobile home in Lakota. Three years later, I pulled it to the house & garage I built in Lakota, North Dakota. Then I moved to Fargo, North Dakota and stored it in a rented garage in Fargo. Then I bought my house in Fargo and built a two-stall garage and stored the pick-up in the garage, where it sits today. I restored the truck gradually to the point it is today and it still needs some finishing. That's the history of my 1934 Ford Pickup Truck. George Maher, Fargo, ND.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I spoke to the original owners family on my 1933 Deluxe Fordor. They provided me with the original Bill of Sale. Purchased in the summer of '33 in New York for $735.75. I am the 4th owner of the car.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? My 1952 R32 (Marmon Herrington converted F3) was purchased by the previous owner's father. It had resided on the ranch until I bought it.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? The 1941 Ford Super Deluxe Fordor sitting in my garage was bought new seven days before Pearl Harbor by my father. Its a good old car. We joined the V-8 club the first year that the Sacto. Regional Group was formed. As this R.G. is number 4 we have been involved with the club almost from the beginning. When the battle to allow the 41-48 big V-8s into the club was raging my Dad was proud to vote against including them! By-the-way, sitting next to "Reddy" is "Chiefy", the 1941 Pontiac that my Grandfather bought new. Dad passed away about 3 years ago.
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? Well some of you already have seen this but for those who have not here goes.
My truck was purchased locally by a grocer (Horrace Davis) in early 41 and used to deliver goods to homes until they sold the business. The truck was also driven by a local news anchor (Bob Palmer) who at that time was their delivery boy. At some point he bumped into another car while eying some girls on the walk. Bob passed before I could show the truck to him. The truck then sat for a time until my friend decided to buy it somewhere around 1956. Fixing the damage allowed him to use it on his farm until 1959. For some reason he parked it in his barn and continued to work on other projects over the years leaving the truck to collect dust and wasp nests. My friend passed away last year in his 90's and I ended purchasing the truck then. The truck was used purchased and used by the Horace Davis Grocery store in Lafayette Colorado until 1956. It was purchased by my friend and used on his farm until 1959. The tuck sat inside there until May of 2008 when I bought it and brought it home. I was invited to the local museum and there was a large turnout of older long time residents who remembered the truck and shared their memories. I had a chance to speak with a large group of these older residents who came to the local museum just to see the truck. Many of these people were well into their 80’s or 90’s. They tell me that the truck has significance to the community because it was the way in which most households and farms got their groceries on a regular basis. Saturdays were the busy days, the truck would run every hour on the hour according to the woman who was the switch board operator, she tells me that in those days you made a list and the grocer put it together for you at the store. Back then people could ring up the Davis store via the switchboard operator to have Bob bring their groceries to them. The truck was a familiar site around town for many years. Other earlier trucks were used including a model T and some remember a flatbed truck with small stake sides but none survive to this day. Great thread, thanks for sharing. |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? Starting at the beginnig: In the mid to late '30's Dad worked for a local farmer named John Livermore in southern Minnesota. Some time in the '40's Mr. Livermore married a woman who had a '40 Deluxe 2 dr. she had bought new in 1940. In 1989 a '40 2dr. was listed in the local paper. When Dad went to see the car, here it was ol' John Livermore. The car was last driven in 1966 and had sat in the same spot in a dirt floor garage for 23 years. It had 33,000 some miles on it. In 2009 Dad gave me the car with 36,200 some miles on it.
Car #2: In late '39 or early '40 a Ford salesman took a local former for a ride in a new '40 sedan. The ride ended at a local bar with the salesman getting the farmer drunk enough to buy the car on paymensts. Six months later the salesman had to repossess the car and sold it to Dad. It blew a head gasket in 1955 while an uncle had it. Dad got it back in the early '80's and restored it. My brother has it now. Now way back. In 1923 a local farmer bought a new Model T roadster and took good care of it, putting it in a shed every night. In '39 he bought a new Chevrolet so now the 'T' sat outside. About 6 months later Dad moved onto the farm across the road and bought the 'T' for $1.50 (one dollar fifty cents) and gave it to his younger brother, who still has it today. Second owner after 89 years! |
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I'm the third caretaker of this 1940 Tonner. The attached photos tell its story. It was delivered to Otto Pfannekuchen at Ritzville Motors in Ritzville, WA. Otto farmed an 800+ acre wheat ranch and used the truck to haul seed into the fields. Ritzville Motors Work order 24174 shows the truck was brought in on Oct 5, 1940 showing 1735 miles for warranty service. The Gas Ration Card shows Otto's fuel allotment for 1943. The house is Otto's place. The Tonner was used around our place for all sorts of hauling, until it was put out to pasture and treated to a body off restoration. To be able to see where it was put into service, how it was used, and visit with the Otto's neighbors is the frosting on the cake. Visualizing the sideboarded bed filled with 100# sacks of seed being hauled into the fields gives new meaning to "Built Ford Tough!"
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Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? My 1934 Ford 4 door sedan was bought new by my grandfather in 1934. He lived in Lawrence, MA. My father told me that my grandfather had bought a 1933 and only drained one side of the engine for the winter. The block cracked and they traded the '33 for the '34.
The car was used by the family until 1951 when it was put into the family garage. It stayed there until 1970 when my aunt gave it to me. The reason she kept it was because during the winter neighbors were looking for garage space to get their cars off the street because of a winter parking ban. She didn't want to rent her garage so inorder to keep anyone from bugging her, she kept the Ford in it. I was the beneficiary of her logic. The car was originally the Tacoma cream color. Some time in the 1940s my father and his brothers decided it needed a paint job so they painted it black using a brush. In 1970 when I got it I had it repainted back close to the original color and that paint is still on it. Besides the paint and a few other minor details the car is pretty much in original condition. |
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I have a general knowledge of the life of my 1935 Cabriolet, but am missing many details.
1935 - 1950 - Car was, supposedly bought new by a lady school teacher from New Hampshire. But the dealer sticker is from a Ford Dealer in Cleveland, Ohio. ???????? (See Photo). 1950 - 1959 - Car was inherited from the lady school teacher, his aunt, by Ed Underhill, an insurance man from Charleston, WV. I remember noticing this car, on the streets, as a high-schooler. 1959 - 1967 - Car was owned by David Giltinan, a wholesale grocery business owner and old car enthuisist, in Charleston, WV. 1967 - 2012 - Car is owned by me. It is now in Daytona Beach, Fl. It is still unrestored. MIKE :) CLICK ON PHOTOS TO ENLARGE - Twice |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? I bought my 53 customline 2door sedan from the original family who owned it, the title had been transfered once when the original lady who owned it died.It sat in a barn for 28 years. Two ford garage overhauls in its history then a factory rebuilt long block. I stay in touch with original owners to let them know the progress of the complete restoration. The only modification to the car will be paint color all other restoration will be stock.
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My 1934 Pickup has only had three owners. This Windsor Ontario built truck was originally bought by Duke and Ternan Auto parts in Leamington Ontario. The engine was rebuilt in the forties. It was sold to a Mr Raimer Edsel,year unknown and driven around town. He traded it on a 1954 Ford Station Wagon, at the Supertest station on the corner of Seacliffe Drive and Erie St. I saw it there one morning as I rode to work at the HJ Heinz plant in Leamington. I had to have it, and purchased it for $200.00 in July 1957. I drove it to a local body shop and had the green paint changed to red with a very detailed pin striping in cream to match the grill shell and wheels for $50.00. It then became mt daily driver. Note lots of salt on the roads in the 50's. I added a White tonneau cover to jazz it up. I was driving it in 1959 when I went to Sarnia to work in Canada's Chemical Valley. In 1964, I finally replaced the engine, with a 1954 Meteor engine. I had experienced lots of oil burning and trouble with keeping water pumps leak free. I also changed to 1940 hydraulic brakes. The truck went into long term barn storage in 1971, and emerged in 1986 awaiting a rebuild. The restoration began in 1999 and was completed in 2009. We drive it often in the good weather. I think I'll give "Merlot" to my son so he can enjoy him too, but not yet. Byron.
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This is great! But I bet your `34 has a short owner history as well. You did everything right in your car collection. When you got busy raising your sons or making a living, you let the cars sit instead of parting with them. I had some fine old cars too, but when my interest waned I sold them and moved on to another hobby, like airplanes. I was just looking thru Hemmings and thinking I should advertise my `35 Cabriolet for a `39 Coupe. But then I think about the old `35. I have had it apart. I know what it is. It does everything I ask of it. I should be more like you... Bud |
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No, I should be more like you. I have never had my cars all apart. But I do know every nut and bolt. Neither one has totally let me down yet. I am planning to do a history of my '34 Phaeton. I know most of it, but am missing details, just like the '35 Cabriolet. Thanks, MIKE :) |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? My father and I bought my coupe from the original owner Bill in Van Nuys CA in 04. Dad and Bill were friends. It was a real treat for him to ride in the car again 65 years later. I have the Retail Buyer's Order and other records such as gas mileage logs up until Bill got drafted. When we got the car from Bill's garage, backyard and storage room, he thought I asked too many questions, After all I was going to have to put the car together from many pieces. Old Bill could make a sailor blush from his cussing and near as I could figure the car came off the road in the mid 50's . I got a couple of unused 56 CA license plates in the deal too. Unfortunately the 47 pink slip got taken in favor of the new title. Bill sure drove the car hard. Upon rebuilding, a trashed cluster and 2nd gear were found, Also a very sloppy u-joint and a lifter de-adjusted in the .080 over 4 inch reworked crank in the original enginewa found. I think old Bill's lifter collapsed, then he crossed spark plug wires in attempt to repair.(that I found ) Then got pissed off and tried to “clean the carbon out of it” presto no second gear and there she sat. At least that is the story I concocted in my head. Anyway the car is in good care for lots of TLC and enjoyment.
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I have a general knowledge of the complete history of my 1934 Ford Phaeton, but I wish I knew all the details.
1934 - 1956 - Car was used, on an unknown estate in Conneticut, to pull a boat back and forth, to the ocean. In the later years, it was used by the kids, through high school. It was originally bought at the J. J. Hart Ford Agency in Brooklyn, NY. (See Photos) 1956 - 1959 - Car was bought for $90.00 by a man in Connecticut, who just stored it for two years. 1959 - 1963 - Was bought by Robert Harrington of Charleston, WV, through "Hemmings", for $200.00. 1963 - 2012 - Was bought by me. Still own it. Still unrestored. MIKE :) CLICK ON PHOTOS TO ENLARGE - Twice |
Re: How Many Know The History Of their V8 Since New ? For my 35 Coupe - I was cleaning the glove box and found the original registration for the state of Massachusetts dated April 11, 1935 with the original owners name and address clearly marked.:)
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