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ThirtiesFord 12-26-2011 04:17 PM

Have a thirties era Ford car (junker)
 

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V8 Bob 12-26-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirtiesFord (Post 331218)
It is sitting on my farm, has been sitting there since some year in the thirties, before I was born. I took pics of it and put them on a photobucket website. Thought some of you vintage Ford experts might be able to tell me more about it, maybe exactly what year...I think it is somewhere in the 36 to 39 year range, but not positive.

It has a lot of shiny steel parts left on it, that is chrome plated steel I have been told, but not positive. Anyway, I am not real into these old cars but thought some of you might want to look at this super old Ford.

http://s1130.photobucket.com/albums/m535/ThirtiesFord/

Eric

'46 Ford sedan.

Bill in Al 12-26-2011 04:21 PM

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Bless it's old heart,I believe it's a '46.

ThirtiesFord 12-26-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by V8 Bob (Post 331222)
'46 Ford sedan.


Thank you! I was pretty sure it is a 46 model, but was not positive.


Eric

Shadetree 12-26-2011 04:22 PM

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The shny parts are probably stainless, not chrome.

Shadetree

ThirtiesFord 12-26-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadetree (Post 331227)
The shny parts are probably stainless, not chrome.

Shadetree


Magnets stick to them, so I know it is ferrous metal. Yeah, probably some sort of stainless. Still shiny all these years though, amazing.

Eric

Old Henry 12-26-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirtiesFord (Post 331229)
Magnets stick to them, so I know it is ferrous metal. Yeah, probably some sort of stainless. Still shiny all these years though, amazing.

That stainless is amazing. Mine sat outside almost as long as yours. (It's a '47.) I took the stainless off, straightened it (with the old "pick and file" method) and with the right abraisive on a buffing wheel buffed them to look like brand new chrome. Amazing.

The hood ornament and piece on top of the grill is a different animal - what's called "pot metal" chrome plated. It gets little "pocks" in it over the years. The outfit that rechromed my bumpers said they can't do "pot metal" so I just cleaned it up and shined it with chrome polish. It pretty much passes the 15 foot test (you can't see it from 15 feet away.)

jimTN 12-26-2011 05:12 PM

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There is a lot of good parts left there, maybe a rebuildable engine since it has a hood over it. Could not see any rear axle so trans and rear end may be gone.

raceron1120 12-26-2011 05:22 PM

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Yes that engine looks fairly complete, might be salvagable, if only for a few parts & pieces. What are your plans for it?

ThirtiesFord 12-26-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by raceron1120 (Post 331281)

Yes that engine looks fairly complete, might be salvagable, if only for a few parts & pieces. What are your plans for it?



Honestly, I'd like to sell it. I could cut the trees down behind it and it is directly accessible to my driveway. If I cut the trees down, somebody could buy it from me and haul the entire thing out, shiny parts, engine parts, the whole shebang. It is just sitting on my land and is an eye sore for me. But I know there are guys out there who can restore these things or at least use parts off them.


I might auction it off on e-bay or somewhere else. It is definitely going to be getting sold, though.


Eric

ThirtiesFord 12-26-2011 11:29 PM

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ford38v8 12-27-2011 12:08 AM

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Call Dennis Carpenter. He's an hour's drive from you and will likely take it off your hands for free. That's the best you can hope for.

http://www.dennis-carpenter.com/
704-786-8139

Mart 12-27-2011 05:11 AM

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Rear axle is there.

The brakes and front spindles are always sought after parts for people converting to hydraulics.

Mart.

ThirtiesFord 12-27-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 331511)
Call Dennis Carpenter. He's an hour's drive from you and will likely take it off your hands for free. That's the best you can hope for.

http://www.dennis-carpenter.com/
704-786-8139


Uh, I think I will let it sit on my land for another fifty before I let someone take it off my hands for free.

Eric

Tinker 12-27-2011 11:44 AM

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You didn't hit the lotto, sorry. Everything that maybe usable will need to be rebuilt. That costs money or takes time. If you part it on eBay you may make back the time you spent dealing with it. Good luck and don't trash it for scrap before pulling all the usable pieces.

ThirtiesFord 12-27-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinker (Post 331730)
You didn't hit the lotto, sorry. Everything that maybe usable will need to be rebuilt. That costs money or takes time. If you part it on eBay you may make back the time you spent dealing with it. Good luck and don't trash it for scrap before pulling all the usable pieces.

It is directly accessible to a road (my driveway). All I would have to do is cut down a few trees, and someone could pull it out. No, I did not think I hit the lotto or anything, but yeah, it is not being given away free.

What do you think I could get for it on ebay? Im just trying to get an idea.

thanks,


Eric

Tinker 12-27-2011 12:01 PM

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Take a look on eBay for 46 ford. You would have to part it for max money, which would not be my suggestion. What's your time worth? The car is beyond the average builder. That person will have to transport as well. My opinion it's a rough sell and on eBay you see the same ones being reposted month after month.

Just a guess but 200 to 500 they pull. That's if it's not rusted in the ground making the brake setup, frame, etc useless. then all you might have is some stainless pieces and maybe a rebuildable engine.

This is just my opinion. Good luck and please don't junk it, best to sell it or give it away as a whole car to someone building one.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...d/DSC02358.jpg
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...d/DSC02427.jpg

ThirtiesFord 12-27-2011 12:59 PM

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Thanks Tinker, much appreciated. That gives me a better idea of what I am dealing with, how to sell it, etc. I did not even know of the term "they pull" before you just mentioned that, except at "pull yourself" junkyards.

thanks,

Eric


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Originally Posted by Tinker (Post 331744)
Take a look on eBay for 46 ford. You would have to part it for max money, which would not be my suggestion. What's your time worth? The car is beyond the average builder. That person will have to transport as well. My opinion it's a rough sell and on eBay you see the same ones being reposted month after month.

Just a guess but 200 to 500 they pull. That's if it's not rusted in the ground making the brake setup, frame, etc useless. then all you might have is some stainless pieces and maybe a rebuildable engine.

This is just my opinion. Good luck and please don't junk it, best to sell it or give it away as a whole car to someone building one.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...d/DSC02358.jpg
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...d/DSC02427.jpg


ford38v8 12-27-2011 01:08 PM

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I would suggest that you sell it as all or nothing. "They pull" means you'll have a pool of oil where the engine was, no trim, no door latches, a torch is used instead of wrenches. You'll have a pile of rust with no usable parts left over.

Tinker 12-27-2011 01:12 PM

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I agree. What I meant was they pull or load it from the area. Every piece you take off the less likely you will get rid of it.

raisinhel 12-27-2011 01:33 PM

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pull it around to the front yard and build a nice landscape around it. yard art. :)

ThirtiesFord 12-27-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinker (Post 331783)
I agree. What I meant was they pull or load it from the area. Every piece you take off the less likely you will get rid of it.


Advice is appreciated, Tinker. Will sell it as a unit, no pulling parts off of it.

Thanks,

Eric

Tinker 12-27-2011 02:11 PM

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1946 ford 2door sedan. The more I look at it, be prepared for less. The drums are half in the dirt.

Good luck.

Seth Swoboda 12-27-2011 02:27 PM

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Not that anyone asked but I would pull the engine and trans, maybe remove the front and rear axle, take off any good trim and take the rest to the scrap yard.

Marv 12-27-2011 07:10 PM

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I agree with Seth. Save all stainless trim and door handles and comlete frame, drivetrain, and steering gearbox. Junk the body. Marv

bugsiegel 12-27-2011 08:23 PM

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want it gone,
call kars4kids. they'll hall it for free and send you on vacation too.

ford35lh 12-27-2011 09:53 PM

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Eric, I have seen a lot of cars in the woods, over the years.
How did yours escape the bullet holes that the others
seem to have acquired.

lynn

ThirtiesFord 12-27-2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ford35lh (Post 332128)
Eric, I have seen a lot of cars in the woods, over the years.
How did yours escape the bullet holes that the others
seem to have acquired.

lynn

LOL that made me laugh. Good question, actually. The answer? Honestly, nobody in my family until recent times was ever into guns much, beyond a few deer hunting rifles. Ive got a second cousin who is a local cop and he does target practice not too far from the old car, but he has set up his own range.

Im into guns, but I just never was into shooting into old junked cars. Although, I honestly have thought about it before. :eek: Glad I did not do it now.

It is just on a piece of property that it is kind of hidden, we get hardly any trespassers, etc.

Good question though...even if made in kind of jest. ;)


Eric

ThirtiesFord 12-27-2011 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda (Post 331830)
Not that anyone asked but I would pull the engine and trans, maybe remove the front and rear axle, take off any good trim and take the rest to the scrap yard.


I raked the leaves away from the edges so I and others could see the condition of the bottom edges of the junker. There is one spot on the right hand door that is indeed real rusted down.

My Dad looked at it, he says that many parts of the body, despite being rusty as heck, are actually still solid. I wonder what one of these experts could do if the rust was removed and it was repainted?

Another thing about it, the front bumper is dented. The story behind that is this: one of my second Uncles, when he was a kid back in the thirties or the early forties, took a joy ride in that thing. It was a working tobacco farm back then here. He crashed it into a tree (nobody was hurt). And left it there. On property that was my Grandfather's. And they never bothered to reclaim it, they just let it sitting there. My family has asked them if they wanted it, "no" is the answer and we own it by squatter's rights now. And it has been there since.


Eric

Wily Kyote 12-27-2011 11:26 PM

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Could it be that ol' second Uncle (named Christopher Loyd?), in the 1930's, parked that '46 Ford in that patch of trees when he had finished filming the little-known first of the "Back to the Future" films? :)

elwood 12-27-2011 11:51 PM

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every thing about that engine looks stuck.

ThirtiesFord 12-28-2011 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wily Kyote (Post 332191)
Could it be that ol' second Uncle (named Christopher Loyd?), in the 1930's, parked that '46 Ford in that patch of trees when he had finished filming the little-known first of the "Back to the Future" films? :)

Actually, the patch of trees there used to be minimal. Like I said, most of those trees grew up around it since. I'd say it was field there mostly, until maybe forty years ago.

And yeah, you can fantasize. ;) But my second Uncle (who was a little kid when he crashed it there), is not named Christopher Loyd. Sorry to dispel your Ford car fantasy. But, heck I have lots of fantasies that never come true! :D


Eric

ford38v8 12-28-2011 03:58 AM

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Wily, I wish I'd thought of that! Maybe the stainless trim is all that's left of the DeLorean!

JM 35 Sedan 12-28-2011 09:42 AM

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Eric, after receiving all of this helpful input from Fordbarners.... what is your asking price for this car?

ThirtiesFord 12-28-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan (Post 332310)
Eric, after receiving all of this helpful input from Fordbarners.... what is your asking price for this car?

I listed it yesterday in the sales forum, $200. The conditions of the sale are in the sales forum.


Eric

Tinker 12-28-2011 09:54 AM

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Eric these fords can be addictive. You might be pulling it into your garage next, not knowing why. The history draws you in, then you find yourself staring at it imagining it running, next you start wrenching on it. :]

V8 Bob 12-28-2011 11:18 AM

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This is an interesting (?) post, Eric. You just join the Barn on Christmas day, you state you have a '30s era Ford and you're pretty sure it's a '36-'39, then you ask what year it is, then you're told by me and others it's a '46, then you "were pretty sure it is a '46" (?), then you talk about your uncle crashing the car into a tree in the '30s or early '40s (that would be before the car was built!), then you post a very demanding ad again stating it's a '30s era Ford, when you're now pretty sure it's a '46. What's with the '30s, when you now know it's a 'fourty-six, and the fact you were born about '70?, according to your profile. That "crash" probably didn't happen until in the '50s, '60s or later, as no one in there right mind would abandon a fairly new car, just after the war, because of vehicle shortages, after a very minor accident. Just wondering. :confused:
The car could be worth hundreds of dollars, IF you spent lots of time completely disassembling it, along with cleaning everything to be as presentable as possible, for sale and over a several month/year time frame. Been there/done that. By the looks of things (and your attitude), the car is in very bad shape, and you'll be lucky to find anybody that will want to mess with it (or you) for much, if any money. Sadly, it's probably worth more as scrap than what parting it out can bring. JMO.

ThirtiesFord 12-28-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by V8 Bob (Post 332387)
This is an interesting (?) post. You just join the Barn on Christmas day, you state you have a '30s era Ford and you're pretty sure it's a '36-'39, then you ask what year it is, then you're told by me and others it's a '46, then you "were pretty sure it is a '46" (?), then you talk about your uncle crashing the car into a tree in the '30s or early '40s (that would be before the car was built!), then you post a very demanding add again stating it's a '30s era Ford, when you're now pretty sure it's a '46. What's with the '30s, when you were born about '72?, according to your profile. That "crash" probably happened in the '50s or '60s, as no one in there right mind would leave a fairly new car, just after the war, because of vehicle shortages, after a very minor accident. Just wondering. :confused:
The car could be worth several hundred dollars, IF you spent lots of time completely disassembling it, along with cleaning everything to be as presentable as possible, for sale and over a several month/year time frame. Been there/done that. By the looks of things (and your attitude), the car is in very bad shape, and you'll be lucky to find anybody that will want to mess with it (you) for much, if any money. JMO.

Ive already been offered $150 for it. I dont have an attitude, Im a very nice guy and I am 42. I just know absolutely nothing about old vintage cars and want to sell it. Simple.

I wrote that sale ad because it is a contract and I wanted to cover myself as much as possible. It is really not strict and I thought, hey, I help you collectors out a little. And I get some spending money. Just being upfront.

Yeah, I did join and post this to sell that ole junker, I aint lying about that.


Eric

ThirtiesFord 12-28-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinker (Post 332322)
Eric these fords can be addictive. You might be pulling it into your garage next, not knowing why. The history draws you in, then you find yourself staring at it imagining it running, next you start wrenching on it. :]


LOL hehehe

Yeah, I bet they are. Honest though, I am already addicted to guns, Im already trying to avoid a strong temptation to become an M1 Garand collector. I just want to sell the thing and help you guys out with some old vintage Ford car.

I can read this forum and see that fixing up old Fords could get addicting.

Eric

Mike51Merc 12-28-2011 01:33 PM

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Isn't anybody wondering how a '46 Ford has been sitting there since the 1930s?


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