Question for PeteHoovie or others regarding reposting pictures
 

Over the past couple of months I had two different Fordbarn members stop by my shop and ironically the same topic came up regarding people enlarging other people's pictures that they uploaded to that thread. I guess my (-or our) question is 'Why' is this 'service' needed?

With technology of iPhones and smart devices, -and with WiFi speeds as fast as they are these days, clicking to load a thumbnailed picture(s) is almost instant and can quickly zoomed in on to look at a certain detail if that is your desire. I realize I am likely ignorant of the obvious reason(s) for them doing this, (-and I sure don't want to hurt anyone's feelings), but I have been a member of Fordbarn since Gus Stangeland started it, then when Shelley & Pete had it, and since Ryan purchased it some 15+ years ago ...and for all those years we seemingly did just fine without this 'service'. So again, what am I missing?? :rolleyes::confused:

So you may ask why does it matter, ...and that would be a fair question? I cannot speak for the other two gentlemen but for me, where I find it most annoying is that I often frequent Fordbarn when I am doing redundant tasks (-on hold during a telephone conversation, monitoring a lathe or machine shop operation, or waiting on a Dr. appointment, etc.) and just want to catch up. Now, with these enlarged pictures it has just about ruined my ability to quickly check on new and/or updated posts with my phone because my browser automatically adjusts the size of the entire thread due to these enlarged picture(s). So now this makes the text so small that the entire thread must be enlarged by pinching & expanding with two hands now (-as opposed to scrolling with my thumb only) which makes scrolling thru the thread too difficult to do quickly. I realize I can block the people that are resizing other people's pictures, but that seems kind of harsh, ...especially if their resizing actually serves a useful purpose to everyone else. Thoughts?

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I agree. I find the redundant information repetitive and annoying. I am perfectly capable of "clicking" on any image I want to enlarge.

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I don’t agree at all. The op answered his own question, he and anyone else who doesn’t appreciate the service can easily block the sources. My own experience is that the thumbnails enlarge to a low resolution, not good enough to see details.

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How? Block "PeteHoovie"? He many times has relevant, interesting posts.

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Here's a thread thanking Pete. Myself, I don't mind it.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ht=pete+hoovie

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Exactly. Blocking someone is the lame way out. My unanswered question is still, 'Why' is it being done?

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I think the more relevant question is why can't we just post regular size pictures into the thread like every other site.

Kirk

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Alan, I think you may have just answered my question. Maybe it's because some people don't know how this forum actually works?? :o :o

You are correct that if someone clicks on the thumbnail photo one time, it does open it in a low resolution. That is by design to allow the image to load fast. If someone immediately double-clicks on the same picture, then it immediately opens in the same exact resolution & size as when someone reposts it. So in reality, there is not an actual benefit to re-post pictures, -and while for some folks it may not bother them whether it is done or not, it does severely handicap others of us that are using our smart phones to read the Forum.


Because there really is not a need for that. No sense slowing down to load hi-res photos each time you visit a thread.

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I appreciate the work they do imbedding the enlarged or actual size pictures in the post. It's a minor inconvenience to click on the photo to enlarge, and have it show up in a new window, but it's an inconvenience. If I knew how to embed the photos in a post like they do, I'd do it to my own posts.

I'm not sure why their posting of the photo in the actual thread is an issue worth discussing, but since you asked; I hope they continue to do this!!!

A better discussion is why some people post links to mostly videos hosted on other webpages, and they don't post any description of the relevance to the offsite link!

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I mentioned why there is an issue in two separate posts above. For some people who are using their smart device to read the Forum, our browsers default to fit the entire thread to fit the iPad or Phone screen. When this happens, it makes the font size of the entire thread too small to be legible because of the oversized image. At that point, you must use two fingers to enlarge the font where it can be read, however this task must be repeated when you want to scroll to read other portions of the same thread.

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I appreciate very much Pete Hoovie enlarging my photos and anyone elses photos because it greatly improves the quality and detail of the photos and makes viewing easier and more enjoyable. If you don't like Pete's enlarging photos, just keep scrolling on down and ignore them.
SO, PETE, Keep doing what you're doing.

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Me too

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Brent, you're right about one thing, many of us are old dogs incapable of learning new tricks. Simple instructions like a double click just go in one ear and out the other, and I count myself as one of those old dogs.
Ryan has a website here that suits us old dogs so well, we find ourselves perusing it on multiple devices day and night. Yes, my cel phone is a PITA on any website, not just the FordBarn, but ya gotta do something while waiting for hours in the Dr's office (These days, that's my biggest complaint)!
I'm sure that Ryan has a dedicated file for all the great suggestions he has accumulated on how to improve his website, which he'd no doubt forward to anyone interested.

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I agrere with the original poster. And I have mentioned it before. It is redundant to repost the pictures when all some one has to do is click on the picture. I am surprised that Ryan hasn't said something as it must really use up bandwidth. Are we getting too lazy to click on the thumbnail ?

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For me, I view on a desk top computer. I can double click all day & the picture stays the same size as if I click once.

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The only thing I will say is that I was really surprised when that happened to one of my pictures. I am a long time moderator on another forum and once in a while a picture will show up that is pretty small. I always ask the OP if he wants me to make his picture bigger and re-post it. The answer is always yes, but I wouldn't even think about doing it without asking. The only difference is that I do it by editing the OP's original Post.... Just My 2¢ worth.
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Keep enlarging Pete Hoovie!

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Brent, since you have an iPhone, consider using the Tapatalk app to read FordBarn. It helps with this problem by formatting all images to automatically be the width of your screen.

I never use the browser anymore unless I’m trying to find someone’s hometown or something. The fee is something like $6/yr. And you can post images in higher-res than the browser upload permits.

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Keep it up Pete!!

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Live is short.Why fret the little things?

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x2 jmo

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x3 imho

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I have an i-phone. Works great for calling people or texting my kids. I only visit the 'Barn on my laptop and even on my 15" screen the pictures are too small until Pete or others blow them up. I also remember to thank him far more often than not. Like others, I'm not sure why all our photos do not come up large like on the other auto forum I frequent. Then perhaps we'd all be happy and get along :)

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Brent,
Folks,
Pictures on forums? I for sure don't have the answers. I do remember years ago when my computer was slow the thumbnails seemed bothersome to me to view then enlarge and go back to the thread. I chose to use a hosting site to hold my enlarged sized pictures and then insert a link in the thread to the larger than thumbnail pictures. I still do this.
Not sure this is good for all systems or not. I don't use my phone to view forums. I use a laptop. I am old!:) Anyway its hard for the older pups to learn all the new tricks that happen very fast these days! By the way thats a good shot of GB with a woodie! Ok its big enough don't enlarge it again! Just having fun guys.
Let me know if my pictures are too big?
Very interesting. But I will probably keep doing larger pictures till Ryan or someone says stop. Come to think of it I kind of look for Pete to enlarge some thumbnails. Maybe I am just getting lazy too?:)
I just completed looking at the 1942 super Deluxe thread with lots of thumbnails. I enlarged most of them and I lived through it.
I like pictures of any size to see the work folks are putting into these cars and trucks!
Amazing threads here!
Regards,
Chris and Cheryl

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While I am not a frequent poster. I am a daily browser.
I think Pete’s & others gestures are very helpful
They were extremely convenient when I was traveling in New Zealand last month.
Very helpful. Keep up the small kindnesses!

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To those who disagree with OP and insist they cannot enlarge the thumbnails, where exactly do you think the photo reposters get those large size photos to repost?

In any case yes it’s unnecessary and mildly irritating, and does ruin the thread when viewed on a phone, since the image will stick out past the edge of the right margin and make you have to zoom way in to see the text.

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I come on here to this site on my home computer before work on a used car lot. Much of my day at work on the car lot is spent planning what I'll do next to my Mercury or what I'm presently doing to my Mercury. I'm flattered that someone does their skill to pictures, because I grew up building a black and white darkroom in places I have lived in although on one site I visit--a person actually takes the time to colorize my pictures. He does a good job even though I love black and white. Kind of funny. My question today is here is my end cap and across from the oil port is a big hollow space and does this space contain the famous felt wick?

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Forgive me for not having read all the texts but my take is that the software that's used for this forum is ancient and it goes back to the the days when memory was expensive. If one has a ton of large format images, it takes a lot of money to store that data on a site that can be accessed by the public. As members of the forum, we're allowed a certain amount of data storage. If you want to post large pictures, you don't download the image, you download the ADDRESS of where your image lies. Over the years, there have been some wonderful threads with beautiful large images and in some cases, the poster of those images for one reason or another has abandoned those imagesly (possibly by not making payments for their storage) and the forum then will only show the address for the images USED TO BE. Pete, God bless him, has been keeping those big beautiful images out there for us all to enjoy. If for some reason he decides to no longer participate, we'll all be left hanging. Enjoy them while we can.

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solidaxle: You make a good point. It's not a big deal.

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I'm with Brent. its not hard to click on pic to make it big. reposting it big is unnecessary.

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Fred, Yes, that is where the oil wick is located. Be careful. Some say drilling a hole there is not a good idea.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5776

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I think your confusing the actual forums with "Photo Hosting" outfits like PhotoBucket. They're the ones that charged to store your pictures and causes them to disappear if you don't pay the bill. Back in the day, the problem was bandwidth more so than data storage. When most forum access was over "dial-up" lines, it could take literally minutes to download a large image; that's why they came up with "thumbnails". They loaded relatively quickly and if you found them of interest, you could "click" on them and get the large image, even though it took a while. With the coming of internet access, bandwidth concerns evaporated as the speed difference is so great.

The problem is the software, not hardware. The vBulletin package that "The Ford Barn" runs on is absolutely ancient, designed back in the day of limited disk storage and dial-up access. As such it has many built in limitations. Ryan's other form, the "H.A.M.B." converted to a more modern platform several years ago, and over there, they encourage you to post all photos full size. I believe plans were to upgrade the "Ford Barn" software as well, but feedback from the users caused that idea to die on the vine.

It's really a matter of personal choice. I find the redundant images annoying, because if they were of interest to me, I would have already enlarged them which makes them redundant and a waste of my time. Others disagree, which is their right. Even I would disagree with the forum banning such activity, so I guess it's our cross to bear.

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"And the beat goes on... and on......and on."

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It’s not storage or “memory”. It’s bandwidth. This software was designed for slow dialup connections, and thumbnails load faster.

Of course, that makes it far superior to modern web software, which is horribly slow in comparison because even with modern broadband connections, loading dozens of full size images takes a while. I say this as a professional software developer.

The reasons for having a thumbnail image that you can click on to expand were correct and wise. The thumbnails work as designed, you can easily get to the full size image, and if you can’t figure it out, everyone else reading the thread shouldn’t have to be punished with spammy image replies because you “need” someone to click on the thumbnail for you.

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I'm not criticizing any individual, but I always just click on the first thumbnail. That allows me to see the image full size and then scroll through the rest of the images using the next button. It's not difficult. But when I then carry on down the thread I have to scroll past all the full size images I have already looked at. Not a biggie, but a little annoying. I use a full size desktop PC. I don't know if using other devices makes a difference. I know how to post the full size pics and often do it myself in the initial post if it is my post.
Again, no criticism, but learning to click on the first thumbnail is a skill most people could achieve.
Mart.