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Very older restoration 32 Deluxe Roadster just sold on BAT today for $32,750 plus fees, etc. 18 serial transmission but engine probably is not a 32 block. I couldn’t read the prefix number on the heads but they didn’t appear to be aluminum. Needs a complete new paint and lots of TLC.
John

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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1932-ford-model-18-9/
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Wow

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'Wow' like that's a really low price? Or like 'What a beautiful Car' ? I have never followed the prices of this type of car, or anything of this magnitude. The above description is claiming that so much needs to be re-done, but to me it's already done. So I have a base line, what would this exact car have sold for at the peak of early V8 collecting, and when would that have been? I have been surprised by how quiet you barners have been on this post. Even Tim's answer was but a single 3 letter word.

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Haha. I meant it as wow that's cheap for a '32 roadster and yes a car like this, to a hot rodder now, not a purist, would have been $60K just 2-3 years ago. Heck, guys are still trying to get $30K+ for just roadster bodies. Sadly, those days are long gone.

I'm with you in it is exactly how I like them; maybe even too nice for my liking.

If I bought this car, I would install a bigger, hopped up flathead, take the fenders off and drive it like I stole it.

I know, at one time, having dual side mounts was the cat's pajamas, but I weep thinking of how many mint fenders were cut up in order to install this truly ugly, in my opinion, option.

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I do recall that a restored '32 roadster typically had an upper 90s price tag. More than one just over a $100,000 asking price. I followed '32 and '33 roadsters for sale daily. There were times that regarding the '33s, none were available. Owners would not sell. I know because I spoke or emailed owners/members in the Early Ford V8 Club that had a '33 roadster via their address, email, phone number! At the time I think that there were eight!

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John
32's didn't have Aluminum heads. They "should" be stamped cast Iron heads either 18-6049 R H or 18-6050 L H OR just 18-6049, 18-6050. It does appear to have one 1936 head "68-####. The intake manifold is 1934, it does appear to have the correct water pumps BUT without being there in person OR getting the proper pictures, it is impossible to tell from the BAT post IF the block is correct? The left exhaust manifold is 1933-35 and the left crossover pipe is NOT 32 correct. The alternator is self explanatory and it appears like a 33-35 distributor & coil, cannot tell if the spark plug tubes are 32 correct or not? NO engine tins present. The oil pan "does" look like its Aluminum although it is quite oily. The muffle "appears" the correct type. Hard to tell but from what I see it "looks" like it has a 34 front spring (square end leafs). It looks like a good "foundation" to start with IF one were looking to "restore" it and IF the body is "real deal" I think its a 32 well bought!! AND was pointed out to me AS I did not "read" the write up, just looked at the pictures...It WAS a 4cyl to begin its life, according to the write-up. SO there is that too!!!

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It figures ,two years ago I was actively looking for a nice older restored 1932 Model B or 18 roadster although I was not looking for sidemount or need to replace front fenders.Closest I got was a Model B that was an older restoration and not as good looking as one above. Guy wouldn't come off of 50K and it did finally sell for mid to high forties. I finally found a reasonably priced older restored 5 window Model B and it has been okay but even my wife said you will never be happy until you get a roadster. Had a '30 and a '31 over the years but always wanted a '32 rear tire mount like a local one when I was a kid 1963.I still check Hemmings about once a week ,one listed is in North Carolina,real nice 100K,couple others are 50 K range,plenty are showing up. At 80 years old I am running out of time besides energy. A couple years or so ago on BAT was a '33 or a ;34 roadster that was very nice,green color and it sold cheap in the thirties.

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I believe they will be getting to your price point shortly. Those looking for $100K will unfortunately be passing on their car to their heirs. Sadly, that is not where the market is for these right now.

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After reading the link posted by Pete the paperwork or chassis as the noted has a "B" serial number and they say they couldn't find verification anywhere on the car.So maybe it was pieced together ?
Also the engine is a '37.It has the water pump block off plate.Intake is '37 also.

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I don’t think that’s truly indicative of the market. Sure, Things have slowed down, but that is a very desirable car with a lackluster presentation on BAT. Should have sold low $40k

I think they could have done better presentation with that car. Some terrible pictures for a BAT auction and from a dealer no less. There were only 36 comments with over 7k views. I find that alone to be unusual for a desirable car.

Regardless , Something was pushing the buyers away.

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I'm with Tim. I think the dual sidemounts really hurt the car. I have a NOS pair of those fenders and I have had a terrible time trying to sell them!

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Had a 32 cabriolet once and it had dual side mounts. First thing I did was get rid of them.

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Were they really trying to sell car after seeing all those bad paint pictures.

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Eye of the beholder I guess. That paint is exactly how I like them. Kind of nice afar, but rustic up close.

Not sure how many have priced out 1st or 2nd tier paint and product lately, but you are looking at $2-$5K just for product (color dependent). It is has gotten incredibly expensive to paint a car nicely.

That does not include the labor to get the sheet metal straight and ready for paint, which could be as much if not double depending what's underneath there and how much you are willing to do yourself.

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Washington blue, $265 quart lacquer. If is original pant, then I would leave it that way. With all the cracks it could be original but looking at the chips it looks awfully thick.

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The nit pickers on the paint have to realize that the era of point restoring cars is dead. Even Kube is doing the rolling patina thing! Material, parts and labor for specialty work has exceeded market value. Preservation of what you have and actually driving them are where its at for the next generation of caretakers. And this car would make a great driver as is.

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You are spot on. There never were very many restoring cars to a true #1 level. I did seventeen of them and was fortunate enough to profit from each I had parted with. Most, well, probably all, were done for the love of it as well as the challenge.
With the seemingly rapid devaluation on most of our beloved old cars, I doubt there'd be a profit these days.
Oh, um, profit if I don't count labor.
Paint, materials alone, ran me over $8500 (wholesale) for the last car I had done. If I was charging for bodywork (on a rather nice car to start with) figure an easy $40k additional cost.
Of course, that's metal work, not bondo. Like I'd said a true #1.
Me rolling the patina thing? Well, partly due to cost but only slightly. Mostly due to burn out. It was a tough decision for me to stop doing full restorations. I'd always enjoyed the personal challenge.
Having been so deeply immersed, I did not realize how stressful those projects were at the time.
Now that I'm "rolling the patina thing" I have actually experienced the huge difference in stress levels.
Hey, at my age, I believe reducing stress is probably a wise choice :)

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100%

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The sticker on my 47 Chevy

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The fifty year old paint on my '51 is starting to show it's age. The nicks, scratches, and "rub-through's" are starting to show, and it's lost a bit of it's gloss in some areas. It sounds like it's got a "nice patina", ehh?

Well, I hate it and can't wait to get it painted!

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I love it!

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This is all quite timely as I am in the process of building eleven interior doors for a Seattle design outfit. Here's a sample I made last week.

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Is that the whole door?

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No, it's a paint sample on some 100 year old scraps of what I'm building the doors from. I need to figure out how rough they want the wood before I can assemble parts. I have built a couple hundred doors along these lines. All for Seattle architects and design firms. Never a paint job quite this shabby yet. This is more typical of my doors. The architect uses this photo on their web site as the intro to this project. After she saw this photo on the wall of the architecture firm, a gal named Stephanie Meyer wanted 27 large doors for her carraige house. She apparently wrote some books about werewolves and vampires in Forks Wa. Called Twilight series. There were movies made too. Anyway I'm glad she liked them. I had 4 kids to feed.

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Thanks Pete, that photo makes me look a little less flakey. The whole point of me posting the cracked paint sample was in response to the cracked paint on the '32, and I was meaning something like, some people pay extra for cracks. Anyway, let's get back to the '32 roadster.

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I knew a guy that removed all the architectural "goodies", doors as well, from OLD homes that were to be demolished.
He took all the stuff to local flea markets and sold hardly a piece here and there. Then he figured out what he needed to do. Instead of the nice, but old varnish, he'd roughly paint them, start them on fire for a short time, extinguish the fire. Crinkled paint sold VERY well at the flea markets for much more money.
I remember watching him do this and thought he was insane. That is, until i witnessed him selling out at the next market.

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These are very similar to the fourteen I'd built for our stable just two years ago.
I used white oak but the design is nearly the same.
Mine slide vs. being hinged and the top "half" is railed vs. solid.

I never had four kids but with eleven horses to feed, well, I understand why a man does what he has to do...

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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kwoAA...rz/s-l1600.jpg




A Brookville currently on Ebay for $60k and the auction has not ended yet. I believe the original one that started this thread was just good timing for the buyer.