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What a deal! - Be concerned... Sold for USD $16,250 on 8/25/25
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1941-mercury-coupe-2/ https://external-content.duckduckgo....5a4901c927c209 |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... [QUOTE=petehoovie;2408572]Sold for USD $16,250 on 8/25/25
[B Pete? Concerned? Sold and not sold? Selling again? Please explain. |
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... Pete, that is a nice driver quality car, no more than that. The price seems about right to me. Never was a highly desirable car.
Still, I understand your point. Our beloved old cars are going down in value, some quicker than others. Supply and demand at work. And in a few years as the supply goes up, up, up, the demand will continue to go down. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... I agree with Kube here. As we age, the demand will go down.
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... This car is identical to mine. A bit hard to tell from the pics, but it appears that the undercarraige on mine is cleaner as well as a few other details like the interior. I understand about the values going down. Not a big concern for me as I really like the car's ride, handling and power. I went for a brisk ride yesterday on not so smooth and twisty roads. When I returned I said to my wife "What a car!"
Interestingly, Women comment more than men on the appearance, they really like it. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... when you get old thats not the onley thing that goes down
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... There was some comments during that auction- it was offered twice - about the “complete, body off”, restoration. Sure did not look like one after looking at the engine compartment, undercarriage and in process photos, to me. Really more a body shop restoration with a new interior. I like ‘41 Mercs as I had one before and this one fairly close was attractive to bid on, but the aforementioned aspects put me off.
So is this sale on a highly visible web auction a sign of the times or really the fact that many buyers on that site know what they are looking at? Thus it sold for about what it was worth after adding in the buyers fee and potential shipping. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... IMHO, this is the way it is. Car people pay the highest prices for the cars they wish they'd had in their high school parking lot. Generally, the coolest cars might have been about 10 years old. The 1941 cars would have been really cool in 1951. Those High School seniors would have been born in 1933. They would now be 92. There are not too many 92 year olds out there buying cool cars.
This is why the car hobby is dying. Because of the way affluence and spending works with age, the biggest spenders now are probably people about 55 years old. Do the math. The 10 year old cars in their parking lot would have been Ford Fairmonts, Chevy Citations, Datsun B210's, etc. Hard to get excited about them. I have an amazing ability to cast a wet blanket over a large area. Street rods do much better. Not saying they're better, just a fact that a 1941 Ford/Mercury street rod with a later model engine and transmission is likely to sell for more. Don't hate me for saying that. I was in High School in the late 70's. There wasn't a single 40's or '50's car in the parking lot. I have no memory of them. I'm an odd duck though. One of my current cars is a 1941 Ford. As original as I can practically make it. Flathead, period Eddie Meyer intake, 6v electrical. It's a lot of fun but I paid more for it than I should have and if I don't make a street rod out of it, my widow will lose money on it. Don't misunderstand, not looking for sympathy, just stating the facts. Love the car, love my friends in the Early Ford V8 club, but this is an expense, not an investment. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... Hopefully we’ll have a family member we can pass our vehicles onto, out of 11 grandchildren only one has interest in my ‘41 and he’s only eight years old, he always wants to drive it when he come to visit.
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... Yes prices go down every year as younger folks go for muscle cars. I noticed last 10 years at car shows a few rods but most muscle cars. I purchsed my 34 out of high school in 1952. Spent a lot of cash over the 72 years but like it the way it is. I'm now 91 and not selling since I have a son waiting for it. Yes he wants it along with his GN Buick. Rod/Muscle generation?
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... I wonder if the same thing will happen to the price of old car parts that are stashed away.
Makers of reproduction parts will also fade away. |
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The two "big players" of reproduction parts have, for quite some time, stopped making a number of their prior parts offerings. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... Gosh "Kube", looks like the writing is on the wall. As time marches on there won't be many folks buying 40's and 50' car "stuff". I bet BOB DRAKE and CARPENTER are paying attention.
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-------It ain't over till the fat lady sings---Jimmy Durante? -------It ain't over till it's over---Yogi Berra? I have a few parts that I have reconditioned (column drops especially) that I like to look at and operate in my hands that no one wants anymore. When in my little shop in the cold of winter I fondle them and think what a great piece of craftsmanship. I look over my shoulder and gaze at my 36 pickup and think "life is good, really good." Who cares what this stuff is worth monetarily. It sure gives me a lot of pleasure! For me it was never a financial investment but an investment in joy! |
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Rich, you got me laughing today. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... [QUOTE=richard crow;2408687]when you get old thats not the onley thing that goes down
------------------------Everything that goes up must come down. It is not going back up again that is "PAINFUL" LOL |
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When you look at it like that, it's a very smart investment in living well. Like one my car club buddies likes to say, "I've never seen a hearse with a luggage rack." |
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... i am waiting for a 1936 three window coupe to drop to 15,000 i dont think it will ever happen
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... My 41 was cheaper than some caskets , only problem is finding a cemetery with a plot large enough for me and the 41 to be planted in it .
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... Stop and think, too, about the number of people nowdays that can even drive a standard
shift...not very many! terry |
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To restate my earlier post, what we are experiencing is supply and demand at work. Someone had stated in part within an earlier post that most guys want a car they either had in high school or college or the one they didn't have but lusted for. So, a middle-aged guy that saved a few dollars now seeks out that car. The issue when related to our old Fords? That middle-aged guy was born in 1985 or so and was in college in 2003 or so. A '32 or '40 Ford to these guys is a museum piece (at best) and little more. |
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On the other hand, the instagram and YouTube people are of the younger demographic and are very interested in 30's era cars with flatheads. Iron Trap Garage has a big following on instagram, YouTube, and eBay. I see these crowds at the swap meets too. Some prices seem to be coming down on cars and parts, but others never will like 3 window cars, speed equipment, and others. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... I was gonna ask what prices are for a roadster/3 window done up in the 'Race of Gentlemen' style? That event has been growing and interests young guys as well as old codgers like myself. Basically I'm talking stripped down beaters that are pre-war hot rod survivors (or built to look like one). It is interesting how many of these hot rods are Fords. There is hardly anything in second place. I almost never see a car like these for sale.
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... I follow a few Flathead/Old Ford groups on Facebook. Every day there are multiple posts about people buying there first Flathead or first old Ford/Model A…I’ve never been in this hobby to look for a profit….and I don’t sell much anyway…but I’m not scrapping stuff yet………Mark
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Some cars will retain value better than others. It has always been the case that true #1 cars retain their value the longest and best compared to lesser examples. The reason again is supply and demand. The supply of true #1 cars is very slim. The demand seems to be fairly static. There will always be deep pockets that insist on owning the best. Still, even the true #1 cars have and will for the most part, continue to lose value. Rest assured, I have sold many #1 restorations and have seen the peak. The "peak" was in the past. |
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I could not agree with you more in regard to younger folks having zero interest in tinkering of any kind. When places like ANGIES LIST, etc. came in vogue, I figured right then and there that younger folks do not want to take the time to repair anything much less learn how to do so. You know, just pick up a phone and call someone else to do it. I was, as I'm certain you were, proud of what we forced ourselves to learn. Applying that knowledge was what is termed "sweat equity". Not anymore. On that note, I'd recently read an article that the younger generation pretty much insists on moving into a home that is exact to their desires. No painting to be done, nothing. Um, good luck with that. And they (that generation) wonder why they are short of money. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... if youre worried about making money in the car market- think porsche ferrari lambo
early sls, etc. thats where the $ is.............. not in fords and chevys. |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... I have a different take on this. After about 1990, cars became too complicated for ordinary people to restore. With plastics that deteriorate and electronics so complicated that they are beyond the skills of even the most experienced folks. Ordinary people are going to find out that trying to restore them is not worth it. Plus, the cars are much less interesting, which is why no one will care about them.
My take on it is that the hobby will morph over the years to a premier pastime with a smaller, more affluent base than it has today. Quality cars will always be in demand by this group, and the really desirable ones will actually gain in value (sorry, guys with sedans and trucks). In the future we will have "car country", which is much the same as "Horse Country" is now. Estates with multiple garages and well-equipped workshops will abound in the outer suburbs. Cars like early Corvettes, high-end muscle cars (no small blocks), full classics, rare exotics, and yes, even certain early Fords will become the coin of the realm and the hobby will see a new renaissance. Unfortunately, when this finally happens, most of us will be long gone, and it'll be a rough road for the next few years. You real young guys, hang on! |
Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... Tubman, I believe you and I are pretty much on the same proverbial page. You have sited some examples of the "whys" but it still comes down to supply and demand. The supply is going up as our group ages / passes. The demand goes down as younger folks, again, for the most part, won't want what we had desired.
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Re: What a deal! - Be concerned... There is a good and a bad side to this. Cars we have may be declining in value, but then we can buy cars that were unobtainable to us before.
Something else that I have wondered about. There is lots of social media and YouTube videos of folks rescuing old cars and getting them running again. These are quite popular. Paul Shinn has a popular series on the Model A, which he claims is helping increase MAFCA membership. These are good for the hobby. Regardless, let's enjoy our cars by working on them and driving them. I just returned from driving my 51 Ford to Maine for the AACA Eastern Division tour. A lot of fun and my car did great. |
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And while the membership has in fact gone up, values of Model A's have dropped. Heck, a beautifully restored roadster can't hit $25k these days. |
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