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Steve in Denver 12-13-2024 11:25 PM

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Anyone have a source on a Ford wide five wheel adapter? The one from Speedway has 5/8" lugs which, as they state, "Requires the use of our 1" hex lug nuts to retain the adapter to your hub", and will not fit the wide five wheels.

The lugs on the the 36-39 cars are 1/2" x 20 thread.

Thus, the Speedway wide five adapater, will not work on the 36-39 cars.

I have looked into having them made and can do it for $75, but hoped just to find one already made. I have seen other ones but they must have been made a long time ago.

I just need them for mounting and balancing, not for the road.

deuce lover 12-14-2024 01:25 AM

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Steve,Are you trying to adapt a later bolt pattern wheel to a

36 drum? I have used the Speedway adapter going from a 5.5 or 4.5 BP to the wide 5.

Ggmac 12-14-2024 06:04 AM

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I’ve used speedways also . Although I bought mine 15-20 years ago

Steve in Denver 12-14-2024 09:03 AM

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I just want to be able to get my tires changed and ballanced on machines that are set up for regular bolt patterns.

The Tire Stores all use that clamp style machine for tire changing and it has a hard time grabbing the rim. I have access to the old style tire machine, but it needs the smaller bolt pattern.

fordyford 12-14-2024 09:38 AM

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I made mine by turning the excess drum part off of a worn out 1937 front drum. Also cut out the hole large enough to fit on my tire machines.

Zeke3 12-14-2024 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fordyford (Post 2355989)
I made mine by turning the excess drum part off of a worn out 1937 front drum. Also cut out the hole large enough to fit on my tire machines.

Excellent, that is a great use for a worn out brake drum!

Steve in Denver 12-14-2024 10:38 AM

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I can have this made for $75 like someone did years ago. I'll just do that. Anyone else need one?

34fordy 12-14-2024 11:51 AM

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I remember going thru this a few years ago. I ended up buying a pair of racing adapters that allowed used of Ford wide 5 wheels. I did a “home” balance of the adapter plates. The 5/8” lug bolts slip into the wide 5 wheels just fine but the lug nuts were tapered differently. I took 5 nuts and turned the proper taper on them to match the taper on the wheels. I do not think that was necessary but did it anyway. It all worked well for me but I could not guarantee that my “home” balance was perfect. The tires I ended up putting on my pickup did not need any balancing for my 55 mph and less.

Steve in Denver 12-14-2024 12:05 PM

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I just do not understand why no one else just makes them correctly with the 1/2" studs.

51504bat 12-14-2024 12:23 PM

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The 5/8" stud issue has been discussed before just not sure where. But there is a Dorman 1/2" stud that has the same shank as the 5/8" studs on the Speedway adapters. I can't remember the part number but hopefully someone will have it. With that number you can replace the 5/8" studs with 1/2" studs and solve the problem.


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Another option for adapters with 1/2" studs
https://www.racinginthedirt.com/prod...ide-5-adapters

34fordy 12-14-2024 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Denver (Post 2356022)
I just do not understand why no one else just makes them correctly with the 1/2" studs.

Like some many parts and tools there is not enough demand for a production run anymore. That is why we have to scrounge around and fabricate for ourselves. I believe it is part of the enjoyment of this hobby. The 5/8" studs slip nicely into the wide five wheel .

ford38v8 12-14-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Denver (Post 2356022)
I just do not understand why no one else just makes them correctly with the 1/2" studs.

Steve, If you have a dozen made as you have suggested, you might sell one or two per year. That's why nobody makes them. Still, that's how many suppliers originally went into business, so go for it and good on you!

Tim Ayers 12-14-2024 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 51504bat (Post 2356026)
The 5/8" stud issue has been discussed before just not sure where. But there is a Dorman 1/2" stud that has the same shank as the 5/8" studs on the Speedway adapters. I can't remember the part number but hopefully someone will have it. With that number you can replace the 5/8" studs with 1/2" studs and solve the problem.


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Another option for adapters with 1/2" studs
https://www.racinginthedirt.com/prod...ide-5-adapters

Dorman has an on-line catalog with all their studs with every dimension. If someone is willing to spend the time, it should be in there.

Steve in Denver 12-14-2024 01:15 PM

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I looked, they dont show prices, just who to buy them from.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-884...origin=keyword
I will go by Advanced Auto and Napa and see what they can find.

34fordy 12-14-2024 01:24 PM

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One more time: The 5/8 studs DO fit into the wide 5 wheels. PERFECTLY. All you need are 5/8" nuts. You are only wanting for mounting and balancing. No problem whatsoever. IMHO.

Tim Ayers 12-14-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Denver (Post 2356050)
I looked, they dont show prices, just who to buy them from.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-884...origin=keyword
I will go by Advanced Auto and Napa and see what they can find.

Put the part number into Rock Auto's search. That's what I did. Here you go. $0.58 a piece
but it looks like they only have one.

Do the same thing on Google, I'm certain you will find a reseller.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...choice=0-0-8-1

Edit: Here is a set of six on Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354945103131

Randy in ca 12-14-2024 02:29 PM

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Here's a link to one of many past threads with information on the use of balancing beads rather than in the direction you're heading:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303171

34fordy 12-14-2024 03:07 PM

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You cannot just pick any stud with a 5/8 shank. There are different sizes and the hole has to the proper diameter for the shank. The 5/8 shank will just fall into a 5/8 hole.

Tim Ayers 12-14-2024 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 34fordy (Post 2356066)
You cannot just pick any stud with a 5/8 shank. There are different sizes and the hole has to the proper diameter for the shank. The 5/8 shank will just fall into a 5/8 hole.

Dorman catalog gives all the specs if you take the time to look through it

34fordy 12-14-2024 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 2356099)
Dorman catalog gives all the specs if you take the time to look through it


That is correct Tim, however in my little experience I have found it not exactly easy peasy. Some shanks have splines and some do not. If you are putting them into aluminum it is much more forgiving than steel. I have also found that a small bench press is not sufficient to set a stud, even in aluminum. A HEALTHY hammer on a solid base to work on has been necessary for me. Very possibly I have erred when I have done this. It is not always easy to find good information (for me) the first time I attempt something. Trial and error seems to be my forte. LOL

Tim Ayers 12-14-2024 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 34fordy (Post 2356107)
That is correct Tim, however in my little experience I have found it not exactly easy peasy. Some shanks have splines and some do not. If you are putting them into aluminum it is much more forgiving than steel. I have also found that a small bench press is not sufficient to set a stud, even in aluminum. A HEALTHY hammer on a solid base to work on has been necessary for me. Very possibly I have erred when I have done this. It is not always easy to find good information (for me) the first time I attempt something. Trial and error seems to be my forte. LOL

Believe me, I know. I spent a few hours finding the correct studs for the Boling Bros. slip on drums only to find out they sell the correct ones when asked. LOL! I believe they've since added them to their catalog.

deuce lover 12-15-2024 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Denver (Post 2356000)
I can have this made for $75 like someone did years ago. I'll just do that. Anyone else need one?

Here is a pair on the HAMB $80.
Keep one and flip the other.


https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...ptors.1328121/

Buckelew 09-02-2025 09:14 AM

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Hi Steve, I need to get at least one of these for the same purpose as you need them. Did you already get some made?


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Originally Posted by Steve in Denver (Post 2356000)
I can have this made for $75 like someone did years ago. I'll just do that. Anyone else need one?


Steve in Denver 09-02-2025 09:28 AM

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I only had 5 made because no one else seemed interested in them.
Let me check with my guy to see how much he wants to make one or two.
I'm not sure I can sell 4 more besides yours.
Do you have any wide five friends that might want one.
A bulk order would help.

Newc 09-02-2025 11:09 AM

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Spadero made them when in Business, he kept them in Stock. Now gone. Newc

Tim Ayers 09-02-2025 07:47 PM

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Since this has come up again, can I confirm what you are making, Steve? You are making an adaptor plate to use wide fives on a '40-style drum? If so, I am very interested in two pairs (4 total).

Steve in Denver 09-02-2025 08:08 PM

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well, sorta, I have made an adapter plate that goes from the wide five to a smaller diameter, similar to the pattern of the '40. Its purpose is to provide a way to mount the wide five wheel on a standard tire changer. It is NOT designed for road use.

john greco 09-02-2025 10:31 PM

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The only way to me to balance is find someone that can balance wheels on car ,

petehoovie 09-02-2025 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Denver (Post 2409948)
well, sorta, I have made an adapter plate that goes from the wide five to a smaller diameter, similar to the pattern of the '40. Its purpose is to provide a way to mount the wide five wheel on a standard tire changer. It is NOT designed for road use.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...6&d=1756861700

Lanny 09-02-2025 11:20 PM

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So, just a quick question, Don't anyone use balance beads anymore ?
Are balance beads a thing of the past ? A flash in the pan ?
A big joke ? Or what say you guys ???



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Tim Ayers 09-03-2025 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Denver (Post 2409948)
well, sorta, I have made an adapter plate that goes from the wide five to a smaller diameter, similar to the pattern of the '40. Its purpose is to provide a way to mount the wide five wheel on a standard tire changer. It is NOT designed for road use.

Ah, gotcha. In that case, I'm in for one for sure.

Steve in Denver 09-03-2025 08:35 AM

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ok, I will go by my guy today and see how his time is for making 5 more.
Buckelew wants one and Tim wants one.
If I get three more orders, it will be worth having them made.
I don't want to have three extras laying around.

51504bat 09-03-2025 08:45 AM

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I'd be interested in one as well, depending on the final cost. Thanks.
Tim

Steve in Denver 09-03-2025 06:56 PM

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Thanks, I will go by tomorrow, I ran out of time today.

kc38ford 09-03-2025 10:48 PM

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Steve, I'd be interested in buying an adapter too.

Phil Gillespie 09-03-2025 11:11 PM

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Steve, I'd be interested in buying an adapter too.

Brought one from Speedway Motors a couple of years ago, Price and freight to NZ was great. Shipping was also very prompt.
Works real well.
Phil NZ

fordv8j 09-04-2025 06:04 PM

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I used a front brake drum, with bearings removed, balance drum first, install wheel with all lug nuts, then spin balance it, worked for me

Farley's34 09-05-2025 08:44 PM

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Steve, I'm interested in one. Jeff

34fordy 09-06-2025 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fordv8j (Post 2410316)
I used a front brake drum, with bearings removed, balance drum first, install wheel with all lug nuts, then spin balance it, worked for me

How did you balance your drum? On a machine? By removing metal or adding? With lug nuts or without? Sounds interesting! Don

Steve in Denver 09-06-2025 09:10 AM

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All,
My guy's shop is backed up. It will be October before he can get them made, he's a one man shop.

The cost will be $65 including lugs and standard lug nuts (not the original size lug nuts) plus shipping.

Steve
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