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I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. 7 Attachment(s)
Hi y'all. Thank you for letting me into your community. I have a few questions about this car and I am hoping someone with much more knowledge than me can help out. The original owner has passed and I want it to end up in the hands of someone who will enjoy it because old cars are not really my thing. He really enjoyed it though and even took it out in parades within the last few years.
The owner was pretty meticulous about his restoration projects and keeping them original. The only thing I am noticing that is not original so far about this car is his bolted on battery holder under the hood. The paint and body work all seems great aside from a weird spot on the rear right pillar. I don't know much about old cars, but it started right up with some new gas and a battery. I have a few questions before I move forward with trying to sell it. We started it, but his after market (under dash) oil pressure gauge was not really reading anything at idle and probably less than 5 PSI with a little gas so I turned it off until I can properly test the oil pressure and/or make sure the oil gauge is reading right. 1) My first question is how can I test oil pressure in this car? I don't know where the filter is, but the oil looks good and is appropriately full. If there is low pressure, is the oil pump the first thing to replace? If it is more than just the gauge is it worth diagnosing or should I sell as is? Id bet it actually does have good pressure just by knowing the previous owner, but I can't ask him now so... 2) What do you think this car is worth? And where is best to try to sell it? Is there some good auction site for old cars? From what I have seen on auction sites it might be up to 30k? 3) The Body is #48. I don't know the VIN yet, but can you tell what model this is? 4) Is there anything else I should know about this car or about selling it? |
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. That’s the oil filter on the driver side of the engine. There should be a restrictor fitting on the inlet side of the filter with a .060 hole in it. Without it it will cause low oil pressure. That filter isn’t correct for that car so I would probably just remove it and screw a plug in the engine where the supply line is now. I’d say that car is in the $12-15K range.
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Would I be correct to assume this is the Deluxe Tudor model? |
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. That's a nice car. The engine itself is not 'to original specifications' but is still a ford flathead V8. It was in cars fron 1949 to 1953. A perspective buyer of an original car needs to know that. Be sure you put lots of photos in ad and that way it will be apparent anyhow. Good luck with the sale. You can start with a fordbarn classified ad.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. Sorry GB, you're wrong! That is the original type engine for 1935. I notice it is equipped with the accessory oil bath air cleaner. Nice car!
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. Don’t do anything to it. It is an honest driver nicely restored and cared for. The new owner will make a few required changes, but needs to inspect the car in its present state of repair to confirm the validity of it being a worthy investment. Making any changes at all may give him doubts. You say the oil looks clean, and it starts easily, that’s confirmation that oil pressure is at least adequate. I would not be afraid to pay up to 17k for a car in that condition, which looks to have been out of action due to a bad radiator, from the picture. Don’t auction it, advertise here on the Fordbarn and also on the EFV8CA website. Importantly, the title must be clear. Verify the number on the title with the serial number located on the top of the frame near the steering gear. It nay be difficult to read under paint and grease, so you may have to gently clean it with mild soap & soft brush. Be firm on the price in as-is condition and be honest in your ad like you have been with us here on the Barn. You’ll have to make 8 more postings here before you’ll be able to post an ad, that’s the rules here.
Edit: GB, what have you been drinking? Engine is a 21 stud, and with any luck may even be an LB. |
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. The oil filter is a later addition and was not originally on the car when it rolled off the production line. If you have good oil pressure, leave it alone. If you aren't sure of the oil pressure, I'd disconnect it and plug the ends, that way you are sure that the engine is going to have the best oil pressure it can produce.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. It is normal for some flatheads to have low oil pressure at idle. What pressure does it have at higher rpms once it warms up. I would not remove the filter housing, just get a filter and put in it. I believe the 46-53 filter is what you need.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. I stand corrected! I just saw the hoses up front and no center outlets and said 8ba to myself. Well, in retrospect it would have been better to have just said it to myself. Yes, it is clearly a 21 stud, head mounted water pump engine.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. The oil pressure issue could be as simple as a bad after market gauge, a missing restrictor orifice in the line at the oil filter (this is my guess)or something more serious. You could open a big can of worms trying to get to the bottom of it. If you have no real attachment to the car, advertise it AS IS. I would only let a prospective buyer run it long enough to verify it starts and runs. You may have a member of the EFV8 Club local to you who can help you..Good Luck......Mark
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I can't tell if its a 21 stud engine or not since that filter is blocking the view of the center lower head studs. Pump block off plates are a sign of 1937 or later blocks.
Filters were an add on accessory for the early V8s and they were a throw away item so they are not often seen mounted. The transmission tower appears to be correct for a 35. The early V8s didn't put out a lot of oil pressure at idle but they should have some at road speeds. If there is no filter in that canister then it may as well be removed. If it is cleaned out and a restrictor is in place then by all means put a filter element in it. It's a bypass system but they work OK to keep things cleaner. My Pop had a 35 Standard Tudor during the war. He went from Minter Field in CA to Avon Park in FL in that old car. |
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. I would at least change the oil as you don’t know what is in there. Use 30wt and see if pressure increases.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. All these well meaning suggestions are fine to educate a new owner, but the OP has told us that he’s not an old car guy and just needs to sell it. He doesn’t need to tinker with it to create problems. He’s got oil pressure (doesn’t need a lot anyway), oil is clean, it starts and runs, that’s all a buyer needs to know besides confirming the serial number matches the title.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. I sold a 36 DeLuxe Tudor humpback last Labor Day for $27,500. The car, however, was literally like brand new.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. Spend some time cleaning up the car and detailing the interior and engine compartment. check around on prices and see what has sold for the same car in the same condition. This will give you a relative idea of what the market is for a 35 Ford tudor. Once advertised beware of scammers. Since you are new to this I would only accept cash or a verified wire transfer from bank to bank. Cashier's checks can come back to bite you unless it's from someone you know very well.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. Just my opinion, but judging by the condition of the rest of the car I would say the oil pressure is fine. It's just not what you might be used to seeing. As long as some pressure is showing when driving down the road all is well. Very little or even no pressure when idling is common in these older engines.
You say it runs smooth. If no no knocks or bangs then stop worrying about it. You're not a car guy. I am. If it were me I would change the oil for either straight 30 or 20W50 if it could be said detergent type oil has already been used. I might also be tempted to remove the added on oil filter and plug the feed and drain holes. Trying another mechanical gauge may also be in order. |
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That trip today would be much more difficult. In your Pop's day, there was a gas station, in every little town, with a "Gomer Pile" mechanic on hand to help keep passing travelers on the road. Today, non-existent! |
Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. The car deserves to be kept in original form for posterity. I had a 36 in almost the same shape. Paid 100 ucks for it in 1950. It was in storage since 1942. Unfortunatly I had to replace the engine. That costanother 40 dollars. But it was like a new car for me in high school. Then I had to go to war!!!!!
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. Gramps , I never knew . Thank you for your service .
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. Hi guys, I'm in a similar situation with another 1935 Ford Deluxe Fordor Touring Sedan only it's Blue with red pin-striping - I just joined the forum and thankfully can now see everyone's images. Anyone know what happened with this car? OP never followed up after all your good advise. I'd post an image but I can't do that yet, thanks in advance for any reply and apologies for my future short posts to get up over the magic 8.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. Any photos you can share? I also have another 1935 Ford Deluxe Fordor Touring Sedan only it's Blue with red pin-striping - I'd post an image but I can't do that yet, thanks in advance for any reply and apologies for my future short posts to get up over the magic 8.
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Re: I inherited a true to original restoration 1935 Ford Deluxe. Help me out here. I bought a '35 5 window coupe from a friend who got it from the original owner. My friend drove it some, used it in parades and then put it in a climate controlled basement where it sat for 42 years. I had to rebuild the distributor to get it running. It has no oil gauge, so i just started it and ran it as normal for an old car, although 'only for a short distance and on and off the trailer at 2 EFV8 national meets for rouge awards. I hooked up an oil gauge to just to see what it was and found about 15psi cold, fast idle and 0psi after warmup. It starts and runs fine and has no worrisome noises and I know it is oiling some by the smoke out the exhaust!
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