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Jumbogem29 05-18-2024 08:23 PM

Crane 400 Cam and a AL-1 cam
 

Hello looking for info on these two cams what do they compare to thanks

hotrodA 05-21-2024 08:30 AM

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Bttt

F1 MIKE 05-22-2024 04:37 PM

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Crane Cam F H Ford no 400 STD Tappet Super Track and drags . 404 LIFT In open-close 26-70 Ex open-close 72-24 Advertised Dur 276 Dur at .050 IN-EX 242 . Run Clearance IN .014 EX .016 Gross Valve LIFT . 404. Part No 32-41 37024 42-48 38024 49-53 39024 .

Jumbogem29 05-22-2024 07:40 PM

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Thank you

hotrodA 05-22-2024 07:43 PM

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Wow! Thanks, @F1 Mike!

Ol' Ron 05-23-2024 09:19 AM

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Nice cam!!!
Gramps

F1 MIKE 05-23-2024 01:20 PM

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CRANE Radius Tappet grind R-450 Acceleration Drags Hi RPM. In Open-Close 34-70 Ex Open- Close 76-28 Advertised Duration 284 At .050 247 In-ex .012 - .014 clearance Gross valve Lift IN .450 EX .450

Jeep09 05-23-2024 01:30 PM

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what idle speed would that run at?

Estimated vacuum hg at idle?

Bored&Stroked 05-23-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by F1 MIKE (Post 2313167)
CRANE Radius Tappet grind R-450 Acceleration Drags Hi RPM. In Open-Close 34-70 Ex Open- Close 76-28 Advertised Duration 284 At .050 247 In-ex .012 - .014 clearance Gross valve Lift IN .450 EX .450

Does anybody actually have one of these cams? I'd love to replicate it or try it!

Jumbogem29 05-23-2024 03:38 PM

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yes i know where one is NOS

Bored&Stroked 05-24-2024 07:30 AM

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I used to run a cam that Tom Hutchinson called the "Awful Awful". It was a .450 lift flat tappet grind that Erson once made. Somehow I "lost" the damn thing over the years - have looked for it many times and it refuses to rear its awful head.

I'd be interested in looking at a big radius grind and seeing how it would run with a blower - that could be fun!

If you happen to know of somebody who would part with one (and hopefully has the Crane radius lifters to go with it as they are a different radius than Isky's if I am correct), I'd be interested in trying "Awful #2"! LOL

PS: I used to know Harvey Crane and sent him my original Potvin 425 for him to do some analysis on it. He used his super high-dollar cam software to rework the profile so the lifter didn't "run off the edge" and was going to grind me an "improved" version. Then Harvey passed and my original 425 went with him . . . I never got it back from those handling his estate. Damnation!

Tim Ayers 05-24-2024 07:52 AM

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I'd have think that south of the Mason Dixon line there are a lot of old Crane cams sitting in garages, old shops, etc. I'd love the try one as well.

F1 MIKE 05-24-2024 08:53 AM

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THAT Info was from my old Winner's Hand Book 1971. Chase Knight on the HAMB worked for Crane Cam for years nice guy look him up.

Bored&Stroked 05-24-2024 09:38 AM

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Interesting Story on Harvey Crane: Most of us remember the "cam wars" and it is easy to have the impression that guys like Harvey Crane and Ed Iskenderian must have had little respect for each other and never did business together. Harvey told me the opposite was true - that he had a lot of respect for Ed and they did quite a bit of business together.

Harvey said to me "Ed was just about the only guy that when we did business together, I never questioned if he had the money or would pay his bills. He always paid on time - I completely trusted his word."

Ol' Ron 05-25-2024 06:56 AM

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B&S, is that the cam I sold you???? That came from a junkyard inder new management and all the OLD stuff was being scrapped. I got there just at the right time.
Gramps
PS ran a crane cam in a 392 Hemi, Nice!!

Bored&Stroked 05-25-2024 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron (Post 2313507)
B&S, is that the cam I sold you???? That came from a junkyard inder new management and all the OLD stuff was being scrapped. I got there just at the right time.
Gramps
PS ran a crane cam in a 392 Hemi, Nice!!

Hey Ol' Ron - That was a Potvin 400 Climax if I recall . . . I don't have a single Crane cam in my stash! LOL

Ol' Ron 05-26-2024 09:02 PM

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OK glad you liked it. My friend that made the L-100 (can;t remember his nane) worked for Harvy, so I had a little inside info. At 91+ my memory os tost.
G

40cpe 05-27-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Ron (Post 2313852)
OK glad you liked it. My friend that made the L-100 (can;t remember his nane) worked for Harvy, so I had a little inside info. At 91+ my memory os tost.
G

Dave DeGeneres? Spelling probably isn't correct.

KiWinUS 05-27-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 40cpe (Post 2314000)
Dave DeGeneres? Spelling probably isn't correct.

Correct but I to are not sure of correct spelling. A first class gentleman the several times I had spoken and done business with him.

hotrodA 05-28-2024 06:11 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
From the Delta Cams box for the AL-1

tubman 05-28-2024 06:30 PM

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After reading the box, how do you adjust the valves on a flathead Ford "Hot"?:confused:

Bored&Stroked 05-28-2024 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman (Post 2314332)
After reading the box, how do you adjust the valves on a flathead Ford "Hot"?:confused:

Yah gotta be FAST . . . really FAST!

frnkeore 06-07-2024 02:10 AM

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This is how.

Bored&Stroked 06-07-2024 07:23 AM

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KR Wilson made those setups . . . a friend has a set of two of them. Given that stock engines did not have adjustable lifters, my guess is that these were designed to help diagnose issues in the valve train. As hard as it is to set adjustable lifters as it is, I can't imagine using these "extenders" and trying to do the job.

But, if I only had those two "Monkey Paws" coming out of the middle of my forehead, things would be so much easier in working on cars! LOL. They'd also be handy for "other things" - but I'm not going there today . . .

petehoovie 06-07-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by frnkeore (Post 2316314)
This is how.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...9&d=1717744206


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