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ryan1929 04-07-2011 05:34 PM

Stock Model A 1/4 mile time?
 

Hey does any one know or have any idea on what a stock model a would do for time on a 1/4 mile drag track. Im thinking of taking mine this summer and not being real hard on it but just shifting normaly and cutting it of at around 50 mph then finishing at 50 mph. has anyone ever done this before is there any videos out there? I know my friend did it with a 26 T and he did around 35 seconds.....

I just think it would be alot of fun to see the look on everyones faces when i pull up to starting line.....

Pete in Michigan 04-07-2011 06:10 PM

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In 1966 I took my 29 coupe to the strip and ran it. Time was 26 seconds and the speed was to slow to record.

ryan1929 04-07-2011 07:43 PM

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Yea im really looking forward to doing it. I do have a helmet but i wonder if they will let me race with no seat belts? im im only going to go 50mph. im just looking for ome fun...not to destroy my car.

Doug Linden 04-07-2011 08:10 PM

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I seem to recall an old Mechanix Illustrated article done by Tom McCahill where he did one of his road tests on a Model A. That was in the sixties and it may have had time trials in it.

modelAtony 04-07-2011 08:18 PM

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2002 my stock 31 tudor with 2 people weight at 420 lbs ran a 24.62 and speed 46.78 mph

Bleach 04-07-2011 08:26 PM

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I'm sure it also matters what body style you're running too. A roadster would most likely beat a Fordor by a few seconds.
Either way, a stock Model A needs a tad more than a quarter mile to reach 50 mph.;)

ryan1929 04-07-2011 08:36 PM

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Well Im going to give it my best shot anyway. I will film it and then post it on ford barn. with my car being a phaeton do you think it will matter if the top is down or up?

30 Tudor and Coupe 04-07-2011 08:43 PM

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Back in the mid 60's, we were racing a '56 Chevy. A Model A showed up every week and got a trophy becasue there was no one in his class. I took my stock '30 coupe on Sunday, ran a 23.5 sec 47.8 MPH and came home with a trophy. My record is perfect with it, raced once, won once & never again. Just wanted to make him earn it or take it away once. He never came back again, guess I spoiled it for him. (Still have the trophy in my shop)

Fourdy 04-07-2011 09:09 PM

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I saw a bracket race once that was the most exciting I have ever seen. A model A pickup was running 27 seconds. He was paired up with a 12 second car. Wow, a 15 second head start by the A. Did he ever look small when the 12 sec car left the line. The A actually lost by a few inches. The A had to go home. What a race! Don't often see that.

Fourdy

Logan 04-07-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan1929 (Post 189279)
Well Im going to give it my best shot anyway. I will film it and then post it on ford barn. with my car being a phaeton do you think it will matter if the top is down or up?

Put it down. The top is like a parachute behind you.

Pete 04-07-2011 09:44 PM

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You will need an approved seat belt.

Jerry Parr WI 04-07-2011 10:37 PM

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I used to see a few run in the early 60's but don't remember the times. As I recall VW's ran in the same class. Flathead V8 dragsters took long enough to make a run you actually got to see them. Today it's a puff of smoke and it's over.

ryan1929 04-07-2011 11:17 PM

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I talked with my local race trac and they said if i run by my self i dont need a seat belt just a helmet

Crazydaddyo 04-08-2011 12:03 AM

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Don't forget to pack a lunch.



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Geo. H 04-08-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug Linden (Post 189258)
I seem to recall an old Mechanix Illustrated article done by Tom McCahill where he did one of his road tests on a Model A. That was in the sixties and it may have had time trials in it.

If memory serves (and it does less and less) McCahill did his Model A test while I was in the Army in Germany--1955-56.

Marco Tahtaras 04-08-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WardAZ (Post 189378)
Back in the early/mid 70's quite a few of us occasionally frequented (now there's an oxymoron) the Fremont drag strip (SF Bay Area).

My sedan lumbered down the strip and you can see the time (26.00). It was one of the slower A's there. Marco was there in a 29 roadster and I seem to recall his car was pretty quick, but I don't remember his 1/4 mile time. There may be a couple other folks who check in here that participated at the Fremont Drag Strip. A lot of fun.

http://abarnyard.com/temp/drags.jpg

Actually I had the worn engine in there at the time. I think I was in the low 25s at about 48mph. I did beat Dale's Tudor by a couple car lengths. It sure was fun!

ryan1929 04-08-2011 11:02 AM

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Someone told me that Car and Driver magazine did a story on the model A and the VW Bug. They Said that the Model A Had a faster 0-60mph time

Charlie Stephens 04-08-2011 11:06 AM

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Does this void your insurance policy?

Charlie Stephens

1930artdeco 04-08-2011 11:24 AM

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In Oregon all of the car clubs got together one day and rented the Woodburn drag strip (don't know if they still do). Well, just for fun I entered my 30 T.S. and got paired with a late 20's T Pheaton-he won. If I remember correctly I did something like 15 sec. @20ish MPH on an 1/8th mile run. If was fun and the announcer got a laugh too.

Mike

p.s. I lost the engine a couple of months later-coincidence?

azmodela 04-08-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan1929 (Post 189541)
They Said that the Model A Had a faster 0-60mph time

Not true! :rolleyes:

ryan1929 04-08-2011 01:38 PM

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Im sure thats what they said im going to dig it up and see if i can find it

HoarseWhisperer 04-08-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Linden (Post 189258)
I seem to recall an old Mechanix Illustrated article done by Tom McCahill where he did one of his road tests on a Model A. That was in the sixties and it may have had time trials in it.

Feb 1957 Science and Mechanics magazine indicates a 1930 Model A Roadster, 27.6 sec @ 50 mph in the 1/4 mile.

ryan1929 04-08-2011 03:35 PM

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Perfect now i know what i can use for a et time

Model A Man 04-08-2011 06:10 PM

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come to the antique nationals on June 5th here is so cal and I believe if you add a seat belt and wear a helmet and a saftey check you can race your stock A down the race track. I have gone to this for several years and have had the most fun.
http://www.autoclubspeedway.com/Tick...Nationals.aspx

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/p...enationals.jpg

Artiki 04-17-2011 11:05 AM

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We've had a few stock and near-stock Model A's run in the Flathead Meltdown over the years. Runs in the 27 & 28 second area are not uncommon, though Neil Fretwell ran a 14.9hp (English) Model A engine with a fibreglass '27 T body to a barnstorming 31-second pass at 40-something mph several years ago. He then drove the same car 150+ miles home. It took a while, I understand...

http://www.flatheadmeltdown.com/imag...rth2%20700.jpg

For what it's worth, the record for a four-banger over here is 15.7 & 84mph in a steel roadgoing '31 roadster.

http://www.flatheadmeltdown.com/imag...evey%20700.jpg

http://www.flatheadmeltdown.com/inde...d=28&Itemid=28

snowbird06 04-17-2011 05:09 PM

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Back in the 60's my 1951 ford Victoria with a stock flathead V8 and 3 speed stick used to turn about 18 seconds and 74mph on a good day. Not bad for 100HP, 239 Cubic inches, and 90k miles.......Even won sometimes...Still love that car...Lots of fun even in the back seat...:p

P.S. 09-24-2023 05:35 PM

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At long last, here is the answer to the OP's question- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pefSVuL3WpQ

old31 09-25-2023 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete in Michigan (Post 189199)
In 1966 I took my 29 coupe to the strip and ran it. Time was 26 seconds and the speed was to slow to record.

Thats funny! Too slow to record!

[email protected] 09-25-2023 10:15 AM

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Paul Shinn ran his in quarter mile--video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pefSVuL3WpQ&t=91s

Jim Brierley 09-25-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 189545)
Does this void your insurance policy?

Charlie Stephens

Insurance won't cover while racing, but if you are running alone, there should be for no problem.

Bokobob 09-25-2023 11:06 AM

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top up or down should make little difference.

harryc 09-25-2023 01:30 PM

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Take a look at Paul Shinn's latest video on youtube. speaks directly to your question

ursus 09-25-2023 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Linden (Post 189258)
I seem to recall an old Mechanix Illustrated article done by Tom McCahill where he did one of his road tests on a Model A. That was in the sixties and it may have had time trials in it.

I jotted down the figures from a reprint of that article back in the 80's and recall that the car was a stock 1929 Tudor, with about 60,000 miles on the OD and a valve and ring job in the previous few years. The pedal-to-the-metal numbers were:

30 MPH at 7.5 secs
40 MPH at 13.4 secs
50 MPH at 22.1 secs
60 MPH at 63.5 secs
Top speed was 64 MPH

Richard Knight 09-25-2023 01:49 PM

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I think most of this discussion is west coast based, which has historically been way ahead of east coast racing, performance, imho. I always was looking in rod and custom mag for what we are now calling bangers and drooled over some of the engines Jim B. Refered to in his book. Well fast forward to now folks and up here in New England there is apparently a hot bed of flathead activity. Just one week ago there was a three day event in winterport, maine called the pine tree jamboree. I recently learned of this event so I do not how long this has been going on. What I can say they did have over 100 flathead powered cars register for the event. Some cars came from rather distant locations. This is a fun family orientated event that some of you may find compelling to participate in. Google pine tree jamboree for plenty of pictures!

Ruth 09-25-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by P.S. (Post 2257781)
At long last, here is the answer to the OP's question- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pefSVuL3WpQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 2257955)
Paul Shinn ran his in quarter mile--video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pefSVuL3WpQ&t=91s

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryc (Post 2258001)
Take a look at Paul Shinn's latest video on youtube. speaks directly to your question

Yeah, I believe that has been mentioned.

jeepguy1948 09-25-2023 10:12 PM

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I would like to detour this thread for a moment; 3 weeks ago at a car show I put my (stock with tired engine) ‘48 Willys Jeep on a chassis dyno. Stock hp at the crank with no accessories the motor was rated 60 hp. Rear wheel hp was 33.6 (I was pleased). Out of 50 cars I was second to lowest. Lowest was a ‘26 T with 27 hp. When you consider that a stock T is about 20 hp at the crank, you know that that was not a “stock” T. That said however, it had to be pushed off the dyno.

Lawrie 09-26-2023 01:18 AM

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I ran my 28ccpu on the chassis dyne at our strip a few years ago,
I has a 97 carb and stock trans etc,
first run was way too rich at full throttle on the power valve,
for the second run we leaned off the mains
We knew the power valve in the 97 was way too rich but it still went ok.
Lawrie

dave in australia 09-26-2023 06:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrie (Post 2258158)
I ran my 28ccpu on the chassis dyne at our strip a few years ago,
I has a 97 carb and stock trans etc,
first run was way too rich at full throttle on the power valve,
for the second run we leaned off the mains
We knew the power valve in the 97 was way too rich but it still went ok.
Lawrie

Interesting how much the AF ratio affects power. Would you lean it out anymore, or would there not be much more to gain?

Fullraceflathead 09-26-2023 11:37 PM

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Here’s a quarter mile pass I made at the “Antique Nationals” back in 2015. I had to be careful as I drove the pickup there and also had to drive it home 20 miles away back when I lived in Riverside California.
Here’s the comments I left later that day I posted on my YouTube page.

While they didn't need to re-write the record books I did make a Quarter Mile pass today at the Antique Nationals.
I made a pass in Our 1928 Model A Ford Roadster Pickup.
I ran a blistering 27.45 seconds at 47.75 mph. I started out in 3rd gear then shifted into 4th at 25mph. Remember these transmissions do not have synchros, you are actually sliding one gear out and one gear in by the "Seat of your Pants" feel. It takes about 3 seconds to make a "Clean" gear change. Get it wrong and you will drive over your transmission!
Today I ended my 28 Year Hiatus from Drag Racing on the Drag Strip.
Next Time out will be with my Son and either the SRT-10
Viper Truck or my '65 GTO.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tbucBd...=2&pp=gAQBiAQB

Bruce of MN 09-27-2023 06:51 AM

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What 4 speed trans did you have in it?


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