1938 Ford Standard Coupe
 

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This survivor 1938 Ford Standard Coupe was on display at the recent 2023 Early Ford V8 Nationals in Dearborn.
I notice that it has a Chrome plated Windscreen Frame.
Is this correct, or did the Standard models come with Painted Windscreen Frames?

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Both are correct, one early, the other late. Early '38 Standards had body color windshield frame, together with body striping. Beginning in January, 1938, rustless steel body moldings, grill bars, and windshield frames were adopted for the Standard model.

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Thanks Alan for this information about Early and Late models.
I found this picture of an Early 1938 Ford Standard Coupe.
Notice that this example has a painted Windscreen Frame and painted Stripe.

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SO Ford38V8


One would assume that followed suit across ALL the "standard" body styles?

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mercman > I found this picture of an Early 1938 Ford Standard Coupe.


I believe both the early & late standards had 3 pairs of SS trim strips as shown on the elusive 3 window shown below on the right.





https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1691080253

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That’s a pretty rare bird! I’ve never seen one in person, just pictures. Note that with this example, being a Standard, yet it is fitted out with whitewalls, fog light, radio, and peep mirror.
Rockfla, yes, all passenger cars were to make the change over at that time, and dealers were to update stock on hand.

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Early 1938 Ford Sales Brochure showing Deluxe and Standard 1938 Fords.
Notice that the Standard Tudor Sedan doesn't have any SS Trim on the Grille?

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691114106

Another Early 1938 Ford Sales Brochure showing Deluxe and Standard 1938 Ford Grilles.
Note the absence of Stainless Steel Trim on the Grille of the Standard model.

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All this talk about grille bars... As I recall, Australia made their own rules on many things, including grille bars, did they not?

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This Illustration from the Australian 1938 Ford Sales Brochure show what is supposed to be a 1938 Ford Standard Club Coupe.
This picture actually shows a 1938 Ford Standard Coupe, a body style that was never offered in Australia.
In 1938, Ford Club Coupes were offered here as either Standard or Deluxe models.
It is oblivious that this illustration displays artistic license.

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To answer ford38v8's question, the only year that Ford Australia offered a different appearing Grille was in 1937.
Part way through the 1937 model year, Ford Australia decided to paint all 1937 Ford Grilles body colour and add 4 SS Strips each side.
On this grille, the bottom strips that extend each side of the Crank Hole Trim are missing.

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Sales on the 38 Standard did not take off right away. Henry wanted them dressed up. By early January the stainless Steel was added to the windshield, grill, wiper and pin stripe. Ford instructed the dealers to retrofit the grills on the cars that were still on the lot. So there are legit mix matches out there.

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A friend here in town has what I believe is a "Early" 38 Standard un-restored car. I will try and get by and snag a few photos for this post!!! Great post by the way....learning A Lot!!!

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I got to drive that '38 standard coupe in Dearborn. I'd ilke to own a driver '38 standard coupe someday.

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I was attempting to post images in this thread. To cover up my ineptness, since I know how to edit, but not delete, here are my gear head stats on my V860 coupe:

Standard Coupe
Model: 82A-770A
Weight 2,354,
WB: 112 in.
Original Price: 595
Number Produced: 13,712

1938 V8-60hp
L-head
Displacement: 136
Bore 2.60 x 3.20
Stroke 3.2
Maximum brake horsepower 60 @ 3500 rpm
Torque ft lbs: 94 lbs @ 2500 rpm.
Compression 6.6
Compression at cranking 105
Iron block, Aluminum heads

Transmission gear ratios:
1st gear = 3.070
2nd gear = 1.83
third 1.0
Reverse = 4.015
Lub Capacity 1.75

Rear axle:
Gear ratio 4.44
Teeth pinion 9
Teeth gear 40

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BELOW is a link to an instructional narrative that I wrote-up some time back to help folks figure out how to post pics here on the F'Barn. It's really pretty simple to do. Click on the link!

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showp...&postcount=649


Coop

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691114673

Close-up shot of the early production 1938 Ford Standard Coupe

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Thank you!

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I remember seeing that early 38 standard coupe at the 2013 meet in Lake Tahoe. It was an amazing condition unrestored car. In the same row of cars were two other 38 standards, one with the side trim and the painted windshield, and the last with all the shiny parts. I can't for the life of me find a picture of all three cars together. Oh well, I'll add another of the very nice early 38 coupe.
https://fordbarn.com/forum/attachmen...3&d=1691199840

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691209607

Early 1938 Ford Standard Coupe - 2013 Grand Nationals

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Another angle - 1938 Ford Standard Coupe - 2013 Grand Nationals

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691210694

1938 Ford Standard Tudor Sedan with Painted Windshield that Fred mentioned.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691210949

1938 Ford Standard Tudor Sedan with Plated Windshield that Fred mentioned.

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Thanks for posting pictures of all three cars. It was bugging me that I didn't have pictures of them, now I do.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691210463

Comparison shot - 1938 Ford Deluxe Club Coupe and 1938 Ford Standard Coupe - 2013 Grand Nationals

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Thanks again, another picture copied to my files.


Well I'm off to go look at a 38 standard coupe. I hope it is as good in person as it looks in pictures.

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Wondering how I am not seeing these pictures as posted. See script but no pics.
Is it my settings????
Phil NZ

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691187306

While this Post is about 1938 Ford Standard Coupes, as mentioned in #10, Ford Australia never offered the regular Coupe body style, only Club Coupes in both Standard and Deluxe. This is a picture of an Australian 1938 Ford Standard Club Coupe, a model that was not available in the USA. It is fitted with After-market Head Light Surrounds and also has an extra Tail Light added on the passenger side.

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"1938 Coupe,
I remember seeing that early 38 standard coupe at the 2013 meet in Lake Tahoe. It was an amazing condition unrestored car. In the same row of cars were two other 38 standards, one with the side trim and the painted windshield, and the last with all the shiny parts. I can't for the life of me find a picture of all three cars together. Oh well, I'll add another of the very nice early 38 coupe"

I think I took pics of most every vehicle there at the 2013 GNM in Lake Tahoe, but finding all of them now might take awhile :confused: ;) :)

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Hi Phil, I frequently have the same problem. I don't know what causes it, but have found a tedious method to fix it. I find another thread where someone posted a picture that shows up as a link instead of the picture. I right click the link and select open in new tab. Then I and am asked to log in again. I log in a second time, including the "stay logged in" check box. Once I have done that all the pictures posted are visible. Currently the thread titled 1946 1947 1948 has a link that works for me.
Thread here: https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=329394

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Yep that was the solution for that. Can now see all pics. Appreciate your assistance as was keen to view these pics as just got a 38 deluxe coupe here in NZ a RHD.
Phil NZ

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Slightly off topic question Phil, is your 38 deluxe coupe a business coupe or a club coupe?
I'm curious since I hadn't realized Aussie 38 coupes were all club coupes.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691366189

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691366195

Forgotten 1938 Ford Standard Club Coupe in Australian bush

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That little coupe was only 34 years old when those pics were snapped!

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Its a business coupe.Believe assembled in NZ
Phil NZ

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Ok newbie question here, what is the difference between a business coupe and a club coupe please?

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The principal difference is that the club coupe has a back seat. It also has an extended roof for headroom for the back seat passengers. On the American model there were flip-out rear windows for ventilation.

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Specific definitions vary depending on model year, but generally speaking, a Business Coupe will have a front seat and ample space behind for transporting items or quantities of items comfortably.
A Club Coupe will have a back seat of smaller dimensions than in a Sedan, usually suitable for children or for two adults.
Exteriors of these two models are sometimes hard to distinguish between, the main differences being in how they are fitted out.

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1691445585

cars2cool, check out this illustrations of the 1938 Ford Deluxe Coupe and 1938 Ford Deluxe Club Coupe from the original Sales Brochure.
Notice that the Coupe has short doors from a Fordor Sedan while the club Coupe has the longer doors from a Tudor Sedan.
I had to use pictures of the Deluxe models, as Ford in USA never offered a 1938 Ford Standard Club Coupe.
However, Australia did offer a 1938 Ford Standard Club Coupe.
Hope that this helps.