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Krylon32 05-13-2021 02:50 PM

Flathead Oil Pan
 

Would someone on here that knows their oil pans please PM me their E-Mail address so I can send them some pictures of an 8BA oil pan I'm using but have no idea what it came off of. Also how much oil it holds. Thanks. Gary

JWL 05-13-2021 03:25 PM

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So, no trust in the "community"? I understand.

J Franklin 05-13-2021 03:40 PM

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It is easy to post a photo here. How else are we going to argue over what you have?

V8COOPMAN 05-13-2021 03:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylon32 (Post 2016206)
Would someone on here that knows their oil pans please PM me their E-Mail address so I can send them some pictures of an 8BA oil pan I'm using but have no idea what it came off of. Also how much oil it holds. Thanks. Gary


Gary.....I know that you DON'T do pictures here on the 'Barn (It's so simple. I'd be happy to send you a VERY concise "step-by-step").

If you would like to e-mail those pics to me, I'll be happy to post 'em here so a 'wider' audience can take a look, if you like. If you want the picture "tutoring", PM me. I've converted three or four previous "NO PICTURE" guys here in the past. Dick D


[email protected]

V8COOPMAN 05-13-2021 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylon32 (Post 2016206)
Would someone on here that knows their oil pans please PM me their E-Mail address so I can send them some pictures of an 8BA oil pan I'm using but have no idea what it came off of. Also how much oil it holds. Thanks. Gary


Here are the pictures of the 8BA-type pan that Gary ("Krylon32") would like info on. DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1620945569

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...6&d=1620945569

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7&d=1620945569

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1620945569

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...9&d=1620945569





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Desoto291Hemi 05-13-2021 05:53 PM

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I’m the same way,,,,,,I take pics with my phone,,,,transfer to my iPad.
Then try to post here and it’s a catastrophe,,,LoL.

I know you guys don’t like the Hamb,,,,,but it is simple as can be there.
Pics post like it was designed that way,,,,,,LoL,,,maybe it was,,,I don’t know .
Anyway,,,,,that’s it,,,,,oh yeah,,,I wish there was a like button here,,,,,on the posts .
There is some major talent here,,,,,a lot of really smart guys .
Thanks !

Tommy

1939mars 05-13-2021 06:05 PM

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There is just a button. Looks like a paperclip. Picture of it attached - hope it helps.

Krylon32 05-13-2021 06:21 PM

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V8 Coopman. Thanks for the help. Explain why when someone posts pictures on the Barn nothing shows up and I have no way of seeing them?

51504bat 05-13-2021 06:31 PM

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Merc?

51 MERC-CT 05-13-2021 06:35 PM

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Pan looks like in the 8BA family with an unfamiliar (to me) location and angle for the dipstick.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...6&d=1620948841

flatjack9 05-13-2021 07:33 PM

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That's not an 8BA pan. All 8BA pans had a center sump. I believe it's a 52 - 53 Merc.

34PKUP 05-13-2021 07:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flatjack9 (Post 2016290)
That's not an 8BA pan. All 8BA pans had a center sump. I believe it's a 52 - 53 Merc.

Really???

Grease348 05-13-2021 07:50 PM

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I don’t know what year it is but the Merc pan I have has a rear sump, windage tray and a bracket that bolt to the starter plate...Steve


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Tim Ayers 05-13-2021 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grease348 (Post 2016297)
I don’t know what year it is but the Merc pan I have has a rear sump, windage tray and a bracket that bolt to the starter plate...Steve


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I believe the pan you mention is '49 Merc only

51 MERC-CT 05-13-2021 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 2016301)
I believe the pan you mention is '49 Merc only

Have a '50 Merc. rear sump with the bracket and a '51 rear sump without the bracket.

Krylon32 05-13-2021 08:11 PM

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Is this a mystery pan? Are you guys saying it won't fit my 8BA block? It sure looks like it will.

Tim Ayers 05-13-2021 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylon32 (Post 2016306)
Is this a mystery pan? Are you guys saying it won't fit my 8BA block? It sure looks like it will.

No, it will fit your 8BA block, we are just not in agreement what it came off of.

Tim Ayers 05-13-2021 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT (Post 2016304)
Have a '50 Merc. rear sump with the bracket and a '51 rear sump without the bracket.

I'm talking about the one with the windage tray. I believe that is '49 Merc only

V8COOPMAN 05-13-2021 09:00 PM

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I believe it's gonna be a '53-ish Merc pan, like pic below!


https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.uG74SJ...r=1.25&pid=1.7


'49 thru EARLY '51 Mercs like this. DD


https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.Zp_Znu...r=1.25&pid=1.7

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.iSDYOt...r=1.25&pid=1.7

Tim Ayers 05-13-2021 09:10 PM

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Right on, DD.

To clarify, Gary you have a late Merc. pan and it will work on an 8BA block.

Question: How many Fordbarners does it take to change an oil pan?

Krylon32 05-13-2021 09:22 PM

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Now that it's identified how much oil does it take?

tubman 05-13-2021 09:31 PM

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All oil pans will fit all engines (8BA). It's the chassis it goes in that determines what it's configuration is.

Krylon32 05-13-2021 09:34 PM

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Motor is going into a deuce highboy roadster if I live long enough?

V8COOPMAN 05-13-2021 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT (Post 2016304)
'51 rear sump without the bracket.


Here's the LATE '51 WITHOUT the bracket.


https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/p...thead-Ford.jpg


And BELOW is the inside of Gary's (Krylon32) pan with funny dipstick. DD


https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.TAeJWJ...r=1.25&pid=1.7

51 MERC-CT 05-14-2021 04:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 2016309)
I'm talking about the one with the windage tray. I believe that is '49 Merc only

Both '50 and '51 Merc's have windage trays. Not '49 only.

51 MERC-CT 05-14-2021 05:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 2016329)
Here's the LATE '51 WITHOUT the bracket.


https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/p...thead-Ford.jpg

Not necessarily "late" as the MercOmatic pan had no bracket.

Tim Ayers 05-14-2021 05:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylon32 (Post 2016320)
Now that it's identified how much oil does it take?

I think it Should be 5 qts.

Tim Ayers 05-14-2021 05:43 AM

Re: Flathead Oil Pan
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT (Post 2016365)
Both '50 and '51 Merc's have windage trays. Not '49 only.

Got it. Thanks

51 MERC-CT 05-14-2021 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylon32 (Post 2016320)
Now that it's identified how much oil does it take?

As stated 5qts. is normal but YOU can do some home work to determine if that works with the oil pan/dipstick combination that you have.
This can be done with water before any restoration work.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1620993172

42merc 05-14-2021 07:01 AM

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It's a 1953 F100 truck V8 flathead oil pan. One year only.

51 MERC-CT 05-14-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 42merc (Post 2016397)
It's a 1953 F100 truck V8 flathead oil pan. One year only.

Yes, indeed, this picture of a '53 F100 and the location of the dipstick seem to verify that.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1620995870

Bored&Stroked 05-14-2021 10:31 AM

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Me, I'd put the pan on the assembled engine, mount the engine in the chassis (with full weight), put 5 quarts of oil in it. Then you can see where the level is on the dipstick and mark the dipstick with a blunt chisel.

Now you know exactly where the oil level should be - in your car, at whatever angle it happens to end up in. :D

Automotive Stud 05-14-2021 02:20 PM

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I thought all truck pans had the big cleanout plate on the bottom?

Krylon32 05-14-2021 02:40 PM

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I'm not questioning you guys but the sump on this pan is massive. But if it's from a truck could it possibly hold more than 5 quarts?

V8 Bob 05-14-2021 02:44 PM

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The '53 truck flathead engines had some unique parts, like the straddle-mounted bell housing, central front engine mount, '49 car-style wide belt water pumps and the full sump oil pan discussed above and correctly identified by '42merc.

34PKUP 05-14-2021 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylon32 (Post 2016534)
I'm not questioning you guys but the sump on this pan is massive. But if it's from a truck could it possibly hold more than 5 quarts?

Yes it's possible so just verify as shown in post #29 using your pan and dipstick.
You don't have to mount it on any engine.

jimvette59 05-14-2021 05:31 PM

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My 53 Merc. EAC has no windage tray but a baffle around the oil pump. That is the part of the pan that is bumped out. Wow there is a lot of different pan configurations out there. Good luck Kube .


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