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Bazooka Joe 02-19-2021 11:55 PM

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Looking to identify year(s) and value of door felt trim metal. 14 3/4” inch tall. Thinking Standard model years?

Looking to identify and value of Deck Lid hinges, they are shorter than 39-40 Fords.

Thank You

Joe

Kube 02-20-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe (Post 1987387)
Looking to identify year(s) and value of door felt trim metal. 14 3/4” inch tall. Thinking Standard model years?

Looking to identify and value of Deck Lid hinges, they are shorter than 39-40 Fords.

Thank You

Joe

Joe, If the trim is for a coupe, it has some value, perhaps, $25 - $40. What is the width? It is "standard" model.
The lid supports are pretty much worthless, maybe $10 or so IF they will support the lid.

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 10:37 AM

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The metal trim is 1/8” wide. I’m just saying for Standard cars? as the front bottom part is not as wide as in my 39 Deluxe. The measurements are the same as I have in my car, a Deluxe Coupe. ( 14 3/4” tall X 31” long. ) I’m not familiar with the height and length of a driver side door felt upholstery trim on a “ sedan “ reason for asking.



I think the deck lid hinges has value, ( repop springs can be purchased if hinges don’t hold decklid up ) especially if they don’t make this type in repop. I’m not sure how a 37-38 Ford Coupe deck lid hinge looks like, if it’s manual lock, if so then not sure where these go or even what manufacturer of auto. If the 37-38 Ford Coupe uses spring hinge types ( like the 39-40 and later ) thinking maybe they go on those year cars? As the decklid is smaller than the 39-40 so thinking the hinges will be smaller, which they are compared to the 39-40. This one looks to have the original factory color of a very dark blue.

I’ve owned many parts for 51 years, ( as it came with my 39 which I purchased it in 1970 and still own ) and needing to prioritize the parts that I’m not familiar with for future sale. It’s not like I’m a young kid anymore.

Thank You

Juergen 02-20-2021 10:40 AM

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They 37 Ford coupe deck lid had a manual mechanism to lock it upright (not something with springs).

Kube 02-20-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe (Post 1987506)
The metal trim is 1/8” wide. I’m just saying for Standard cars? as the front bottom part is not as wide as in my 39 Deluxe. The measurements are the same as I have in my car, a Deluxe Coupe. ( 14 3/4” tall X 31” long. ) I’m not familiar with the height and length of a driver side door felt upholstery trim on a “ sedan “ reason for asking.



I think the deck lid hinges has value, ( repop springs can be purchased if hinges don’t hold decklid up ) especially if they don’t make this type in repop. I’m not sure how a 37-38 Ford Coupe deck lid hinge looks like, if it’s manual lock, if so then not sure where these go or even what manufacturer of auto. If the 37-38 Ford Coupe uses spring hinge types ( like the 39-40 and later ) thinking maybe they go on those year cars? As the decklid is smaller than the 39-40 so thinking the hinges will be smaller, which they are compared to the 39-40. This one looks to have the original factory color of a very dark blue.

I’ve owned many parts for 51 years, ( as it came with my 39 which I purchased it in 1970 and still own ) and needing to prioritize the parts that I’m not familiar with for future sale. It’s not like I’m a young kid anymore.

Thank You

Yep, trim is 40 standard. I'll stick with my original estimate. I'll also stick with my estimate for the lid supports. You'll most likely end up tossing them.

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 12:24 PM

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Yep, trim is 40 standard. I'll stick with my original estimate. I'll also stick with my estimate for the lid supports. You'll most likely end up tossing them.

Thankx for ID trim, in your opinion is that trim for only a 40 Standard or for a 39 Standard or also for 37-38 Standards. Seems odd they would make that for a one year knockoff.

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Juergen (Post 1987507)
They 37 Ford coupe deck lid had a manual mechanism to lock it upright (not something with springs).

Thankx, did see some ( what looked like original 37 Coupes ) with one hinge ( drivers side only ) with springs on it but the angle piece that mounted onto the decklid with the two screws where, had a different configuration, so guessing that was changed from original manual locking clips?

Sid the Maineiac 02-20-2021 12:43 PM

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Nice looking 39 coupe by the way,Bazooka !

Kube 02-20-2021 12:53 PM

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Thankx for ID trim, in your opinion is that trim for only a 40 Standard or for a 39 Standard or also for 37-38 Standards. Seems odd they would make that for a one year knockoff.

It's possible the trim fits '39 as well but I don't think so. I simply can't recall for certain. I've attached a photo of '39 std. trim. They don't look like yours.

Zeke3 02-20-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Juergen (Post 1987507)
They 37 Ford coupe deck lid had a manual mechanism to lock it upright (not something with springs).

My 37 coupe has the manual mechanism that Juergen describes, my serial number is an early February engine serial number. The Early Ford V8 club book on 37's show a running change to a spring loaded support later in production, page 3-21. The book also shows the length of the support with the spring, p/n 78-727690-B having a length of 12.5" from the centerline of the hole to the centerline of the rivet. Yours looks a good amount longer than that dimension.

A similar but longer support, p/n 78-7068970-B, was used on sedans. You might checkout the Automotive Trimming and Supplies catalog, page 13, for more details. I don't have a copy of that publication yet.

Will D 02-20-2021 02:54 PM

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It's possible the trim fits '39 as well but I don't think so. I simply can't recall for certain. I've attached a photo of '39 std. trim. They don't look like yours.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the styling the same or quite simliar for:

38 deluxe >>> 39 standard
39 deluxe >>> 40 standard

If they fit '40 standard then they have a better chance of fitting 39 deluxe than a 39 standard??

Will D 02-20-2021 03:24 PM

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Just found these in my shop. They came off '38 deluxe fordor. Pic is of front passenger door(right). 14 3/4" tall x 31" wide. Appears to be the same in your photo.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1613852384

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Will D (Post 1987627)
Just found these in my shop. They came off '38 deluxe fordor. Pic is of front passenger door(right). 14 3/4" tall x 31" wide. Appears to be the same in your photo.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1613852384

Yes! That’s the same dimensions and looks.. Thankx!

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke3 (Post 1987610)
My 37 coupe has the manual mechanism that Juergen describes, my serial number is an early February engine serial number. The Early Ford V8 club book on 37's show a running change to a spring loaded support later in production, page 3-21. The book also shows the length of the support with the spring, p/n 78-727690-B having a length of 12.5" from the centerline of the hole to the centerline of the rivet. Yours looks a good amount longer than that dimension.

A similar but longer support, p/n 78-7068970-B, was used on sedans. You might checkout the Automotive Trimming and Supplies catalog, page 13, for more details. I don't have a copy of that publication yet.

Here’s the two spring type that I found on what looked like very original 37 Ford Coupes. The one in red has a notch ( turns horizontal ) then turns up 90 degree then turns horizontal again where the two mounting bolts mounts to the deck lid. Mine angles downward, ( where the two mounting bolts hook to the deck lid ) so not a 37 late model Coupe. I will check out the ones on the sedans that you mentioned. Either way if it is for a 37 Ford, I don’t see any company making repops of these, so to me anyway, has some value. I actually compared to my hinges, looks to be similar in length .Thankx !

Kube 02-20-2021 03:51 PM

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Yes! That’s the same dimensions and looks.. Thankx!

They do not look like the 39 std. trim in my photos. Look at the bottom corners...

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1987567)
It's possible the trim fits '39 as well but I don't think so. I simply can't recall for certain. I've attached a photo of '39 std. trim. They don't look like yours.

Yes, Thankx, for your help, yes certainly a tad different.

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 04:22 PM

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Nice looking 39 coupe by the way,Bazooka !

Thankx for the kind words, mostly original looking, Lebanon Bonney mohair interior, Wood Grain dash by Elmo’s Grainmobile, decades ago. 46 Canadian block, with hop up parts, converted to 12 volt pointless ignition many years ago. Bought ignition system from Patrick’s years ago. Modern 15” tires, with nostalgia rims, still has vacumn wipers. Dropped front axle. This September will be 51 years of ownership, a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get it to look like it is now....once again Thankx for the kind words..

mercurycyclone 02-20-2021 06:52 PM

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Deluxe 39 and 40 see attached.

mercurycyclone 02-20-2021 06:58 PM

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mercurycyclone 02-20-2021 07:05 PM

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Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 11:03 PM

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Yes, mine looks like the 39/40 Deluxe Coupe as you show, as long as it’s 31” long and 14 3/4” tall, which guessing it is,..Thank You

Bazooka Joe 02-20-2021 11:10 PM

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Zeke3

Looked long and hard, this matches what I have, the plate with the two holes that hook to the decklid matches mine, and has a bend in the arm like mine. Mine is as wide ( plate with two holes ) and the plate angle is exactly the same. Says it’s for 41-48 Ford Tudor & Fordor Sedan & 1939-48 Mercury, so says C W Moss

Thank You for your help

Will D 02-20-2021 11:39 PM

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Those are great photos mercurycyclone. Thank you for sharing. Nice to be able to see side to side comparisons.

mercurycyclone 02-21-2021 09:36 PM

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Will and Joe 38 Deluxe seems closer to 39 - 40 Deluxe and 38 Standard I think would be closer to 37 Ford Deluxe and Standard.
I have attached photos and measurements of 39 - 40 deluxe coupe.

mercurycyclone 02-21-2021 09:43 PM

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I should have said I attached photos and measurements of the 39 and 40 Ford Deluxe & Standard Coupe door trim.

Bazooka Joe 02-23-2021 02:09 PM

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Will and Joe 38 Deluxe seems closer to 39 - 40 Deluxe and 38 Standard I think would be closer to 37 Ford Deluxe and Standard.
I have attached photos and measurements of 39 - 40 deluxe coupe.

Don’t think mine is a 39-40 Deluxe and certainly not a 39-40 Standard ( no hook at end and being more meatier )

Mine is EXACTLY 31” long, not 31 3/4” wide as you reference for the 39-40 Ford Deluxe, and probably the Standards are also ( 31 3/4” long ) for those two years.

Thinking Will D photo and measurements are more correct, but even then in his photo it still does not look exactly 31” long, as the tape measurement looks a tad off on both ends. Maybe not thou? He says that piece came off a 38 Deluxe Fordor, I’m sure it fits other years models also. Doubt it’s a one year specific model knock off.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1613852381

I’m just trying to ID part for future sale.

Thanks for everyone help,..

Will D 02-23-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe (Post 1988554)
Don’t think mine is a 39-40 Deluxe and certainly not a 39-40 Standard ( no hook at end and more meatier )

Mine is EXACTLY 31” long, not 31 3/4” wide as you reference for the 39-40 Ford Deluxe, and probably the Standards are also ( 31 3/4” long ) for those two years.

Thinking Will D photo and measurements are more correct, but even then in his photo it still does not look exactly 31” long, as the tape measurement looks a tad off on both ends. Maybe not thou? He says that piece came off a 38 Deluxe Fordor, I’m sure it fits other years models also. Doubt it’s a one year specific model knock off.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1613852381

I’m just trying to ID part for future sale.

Thanks for everyone help,..

The one in my photo is 31 inch exact. It looks slightly off in the photo due to camera angle. My '38 has the original interior, or what's left of it. I pulled the tattered upholstery off the trim for better photo.

Bazooka Joe 02-23-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Will D (Post 1988582)
The one in my photo is 31 inch exact. It looks slightly off in the photo due to camera angle. My '38 has the original interior, or what's left of it. I pulled the tattered upholstery off the trim for better photo.

Yes! That’s great info, I’m still thinking it fits other years and models, but for now I’m satisfied that whenever I sell it, I’ll know it fits at least one model year..

Thanks again for your effort

Joe


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