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10gaugemag 12-28-2020 12:21 AM

Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Found this critter while cleaning in my grandpas basement yesterday.

Are these sought after by Flathead enthusiasts?

Also what's the bolt/stud on the end of the manifold for?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
https://i.postimg.cc/WbVhC61C/20201227-095649.jpg

10gaugemag 12-28-2020 12:24 AM

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https://i.postimg.cc/xjJ4hM4v/20201227-095701.jpg

10gaugemag 12-28-2020 12:25 AM

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https://i.postimg.cc/1RGp8znx/20201227-095657.jpg

Mart 12-28-2020 05:21 AM

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Hello. Yes, that would be something a flathead enthusiast might want. The Stromberg carbs are also something that people go for. The big stud at the front is where the generator attaches.
Mart.

10gaugemag 12-28-2020 12:06 PM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Wonder if the barb fitting tapped in the top between carbs is a factory job?

tubman 12-28-2020 12:37 PM

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I have several Edmunds manifolds, and that's how they typically hooked up the windshield wipers. That manifold is different from most Edmunds dual manifolds in that the carburetors appear to mounted further forward than usual. To use it, you will probably need a special generator bracket. It does look like an alternator might fit, though. Finally, the road draft tube and oil filler tube openings in the front make that for the later "8ba" engines ('49-'53).

While that setup is desirable (especially with those carburetors), it is not a sought after rare collectible.

Mart 12-28-2020 01:50 PM

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The carbs may be mounted further forward because it is an 8BA type, which can typically have the generator further forward to line up with the belts.

10gaugemag 12-28-2020 02:21 PM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Would a better pic of full length tell you more if it does in fact have carbs mounted forward?

tubman 12-28-2020 02:39 PM

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That would help. The Edmunds 8BA dual manifolds I have seen have the "Edmunds" script between the front of the manifold and the front carb, not between the carbs like yours. These will allow the generator to be mounted in the conventional position. I couldn't be sure about yours unless I measured it or tried a generator, but I don't think a generator would fit. Edmunds made several varieties of 8BA dual manifolds including a "Super" for 4 bolt carbs, so it's hard to know. Here's a picture of a more common Edmunds 8BA dual. Note the difference in the distance between the front carb and the generator mount.

V8 Bob 12-28-2020 02:46 PM

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The first regular dual I ran on my '51 was an Edmunds like the one pictured above. The can ran OK, but the carb placement and spacing just looked odd imo, and like no other regular 8BA I've ever seen. I eventually sold it and installed an Edelbrock regular dual that has "normal" carb placement and spacing. :) I remember the buyer was Charlie Price of Vintage Speed who was collecting Edmunds products at that time.

aussie merc 12-28-2020 05:39 PM

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definitely good swap meet material if priced correctly

10gaugemag 12-28-2020 09:07 PM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Here ya go.
https://i.postimg.cc/PJ0m1gLf/20201228-191347.jpg

10gaugemag 12-28-2020 09:09 PM

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https://i.postimg.cc/fT4CtdYc/20201228-191351.jpg

flatford8 12-29-2020 07:38 AM

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I think this like the one Tubman posted with 94’s....... Mark

flatford8 12-29-2020 07:38 AM

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I took the picture while going down a very steep hill....... Mark

V8 Bob 12-29-2020 07:47 AM

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Now that I clearly see the manifold, it has the overall design and carb placement like most regular 8BA duals. The picture of Tubman's is the odd one I described in my previous post.

hop up 12-29-2020 11:03 AM

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The intake is a later one and 49-53 had a generator mount and strap as pictured is needed to run a gennie on the 49-53. This would move it out a bit to fit your generator. Thats a nice setup and worth a few bucks as the carbs are desirable 1935 1936 1937 large logo 97 carb

tubman 12-29-2020 11:08 AM

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The O/P's manifold seems to have less than 6" clearance between the generator mount and the front carb. I don't have anything here in Florida to measure, but I don't think that's near enough for a regular Ford generator. It is probably plenty for an alternator.

"V8 Bob" - It's odd, but all of the 8BA Edmunds dual manifolds I have seen look like the picture I posted. It's why I have always referred to the Edmunds as "the ugliest manifold in existence".:D

I just noticed the 97's match; that's a plus as well.:)

hop up 12-29-2020 11:35 AM

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As you see in the picture the generator will be moved forward and clears the carburetor. This is on a 53 Mercury motor thin belt gennie and with the strap that hold the generator you move it more forward with the twin belt system. The center line for the belt is 3.250 that is on the water/generator and second belt center line is 3.750 running the fan/waterpump. This is why it works as it moves the generator forward to run water pumps.

hop up 12-29-2020 11:59 AM

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49-53 generator with strap mount and early edmunds with early style gennie

tubman 12-29-2020 12:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hop up (Post 1967880)
49-53 generator with strap mount and early edmunds with early style gennie

On your first picture, we can't see the manifold well enough to determine what it is. Your picture does show that the generator is at least 8" long, so it looks like it would be questionable if it would fit in the space shown by the O/P.

On the second picture, you do see that the 8BA manifold pictured has the "Edmunds" script in front of the carbs don't you? There's a lot less room on the O/P's manifold. As I said, I'm not sure, but I'd sure check it out.

VeryTangled 12-29-2020 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 10gaugemag (Post 1967391)
Found this critter while cleaning in my grandpas basement yesterday.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Welcome to the FordBarn Forums!

Nothing to add on the intake/carb piece, BUT if your grandpa had that in his basement I'd expect he had more gems like it to be discovered!

Being cautious and asking questions, as you've done in this case, is probably sensible.

tubman 12-29-2020 04:24 PM

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Thanks for getting this thread back on track!

hop up 12-29-2020 08:41 PM

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Both are Edmunds

Charlie ny 12-29-2020 08:53 PM

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10 gauge,
I'll buy it....check your PM's
Thanks,
Charlie ny

10gaugemag 12-30-2020 09:35 AM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie ny (Post 1968099)
10 gauge,
I'll buy it....check your PM's
Thanks,
Charlie ny

I did. Cannot reply/send unless I have at least 10 posts.

Charlie ny 12-30-2020 10:35 AM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

10 gauge,
Send me an [email protected].......
Thanks,
Charlie ny

10gaugemag 12-31-2020 10:51 AM

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Will do Charlie ny.

10gaugemag 12-31-2020 10:53 AM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryTangled (Post 1967925)
Welcome to the FordBarn Forums!

Nothing to add on the intake/carb piece, BUT if your grandpa had that in his basement I'd expect he had more gems like it to be discovered!

Being cautious and asking questions, as you've done in this case, is probably sensible.

Supposedly there were 2 intakes but only found 1 so far and I am down to not much left. Still have a shop to go through at some point this winter.

10gaugemag 12-31-2020 04:17 PM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie ny (Post 1968300)
10 gauge,
Send me an [email protected].......
Thanks,
Charlie ny

Sent.

10gaugemag 08-07-2021 11:51 AM

Re: Edmunds manifold, Twin Stromberg 97 carbs
 

Still interested in selling but it looks like I cannot post in the classifieds section.

Does anyone know how many posts I must have before I can post in classifieds?

Edited: Nevermind. I think I may be wrong. Will give it a whirl.


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