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Two times this week I have answered an ad in the For Sale section about a part I wanted. Two different sellers. Told the seller I would take it. The seller both times said give me your zip and I will check and see how much shipping is for you. I say great, thanks. A couple days go by, I don't hear anything so I pm him/her to ask what the shipping is and both times, I got back this response. Sorry, I sold it. WTF! Since I responded first, and said I will take it, doesn't that mean it is mine pending payment?? I don't get what is going on.

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If I had to guess, I would bet that someone local bought it and they didn't want to take the time to mail it...

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I know this sucks, but there's another way to look at it.
How do you know YOU responded first?
Where is the rules stating he has to sell it to the first inquiry?
It's a BIG world and realistically he might have got 87 emails and picked the easiest looking transaction.
Personally I agree you deserve the courtesy of a reply at least and that's how I treat customers. Unfortunately many sellers are far too busy with more important issues(to them)...or simply don't care.
I prefer swap meets as my #1 parts source...a distant 2nd would be ebay. At least with ebay you can read numerous accounts by previous buyers and the better the score the less likely they are going to mess you around.
I try and look at every angle before bidding and out of 112 ebay transactions have had only 1 scam(worn out parts)
...Besides, the 4 NOS Model A rad hoses listed as "Model T bushings" MORE than made up for the 1 scam. ;):)

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I had a guy get mad at me once when I sold something on the Hamb.He thought that he was the first guy to contact me when in fact,he was the third one.Some of these guys stay online all the time and are quick to pounce. Only the seller can tell you why he didn't let you have it.

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sa a sometimes buyer/sometimes seller, it works both ways. They call and say they want it and then you bug them for their info and .......then they don't want it. It's tough to get personal on the internet,but it saves a LOT of gas. I do miss the face to face but it 's economical to do bussiness from afar, most of the time. my 2 cents

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If they're that flaky, you simply dodged a bullet.

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It takes all kinds. I recently puchased an item from a fellow FB guy. No problems. Nice guy.

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Sometimes a followup phone call will tell you where you stand with the seller up front. Bob

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Does the first caller that promises to pay always go through with the sale?

So the buyer collects names and puts them in line, delaying them by saying that they have to check the shipping. If the first fails then the next in line until the money arrives.

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I've had similar situations too, I guess we all do. I inquired about a transmission that was listed, to see what it would cost to ship to me. The guy said "I can look into it", but never responded again, until it was announced it was sold.

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Ive sold lots of stuff online. Its simply put the guy that shows up with the $ first takes it home. Ive had 3 guys racing to my house to pick up a dirtbike, and the first guy that got there with the cash got it no matter who called first.

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Frankly, if someone calls or e-mails me regarding a part I have, and he wants it for my asking price, I hold the part for him. I havn't had any problem with any buyer; when a person takes the time to call, I believe the seller also has a responsible to abide to his commitment to the buyer.

What upsets me is receiving an e-mail asking about prices or condition of part ? I take my time to answer and never get a reply !!! Did he not receive my e-mail ? Was my price more than he wanted to spend ?

Ron

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Since the seller asked for the zip code so he could check shipping, that should have indicated the part was still for sale and Vanspeed was in line to buy it and said he would take it. Sounds like a bum deal on the seller's part to me.

If a sale was already pending then the seller should have said so when Vanspeed called.

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The seller should have been more honest and at least have told you that there are more offers and the best deal wins . Maybe you were better off not getting the deal . They might have cashed your cheque and then not sent you anything

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I may be going through this now! I put an ad up in Swap Meet for a 1913 style Ford windsheild. A guy from Ohio (?)wants it. My computer ran amuck and buried the e-mail. I got it back, Finally......... Anyway, This doesn't look good for the sale. Further more, I wished that the sale was local. Whjile I've done some shipping years ago, It seems a lot more expensive and involved today. And it's glass and all that entails. I've been dragging my feet trying to figure out what to do next. How to Crate it, how to ship it, how much to charge etc. Anybody have any suggestions?
Terry

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Terry, if you were scared to ship the part, you probably shouldn't have listed it 'for sale' on the Internet.

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I understand exactly what Vanspeed is talking about. A little common courtesy can go a long way. If you have someone that is interested in the part before I called, don't shine me on, just say so. Just tell me that you are waiting to hear back from the other guy, and let me know either way if the parts has been sold or is still available. How hard is it to edit your listing or post on it that the sale is pending or to send me an e-mail/PM saying that it was sold? I am a big boy and I can handle it, you are not going to hurt my feelings.

I have bought a lot of parts from guys here on Fordbarn and have had nothing but great results, and met and talked with some great individuals. I bought parts from Vanspeed, a real good, honest guy. Ron in Quincy, if he says he has a part, it's a great part no question. If anything, he undersells how good the condition of the part is. There are some people though that I have bought parts from that list in the classified section that I will never deal with again either, gross misrepresentaion of the condition/quality of the parts, and that goes back to the old Fordbarn.

The ads that I never even give a second look to are the ones like Logan had talked about "first one here gets it". I don't need to be in some sort of a stupid foot-race to get something. If my word that I am coming over to pick-up the part/item, with cash in hand is not good enough for you, then oh well, my loss I guess.

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I agree 100% with Tom on this. Very poor treatment by a seller. One can only hope it comes back around to bite them.

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Thanks guys, I just wanted to know if I was the only one having to deal with stuff like this. I have been a long time member of the hamb, and over there it is first come, first serve. I have been told over there that I am second in line or something like that and I am fine with that. I always say let me know if the buyer backs out. Do not tell me that you will find out for me how much shipping is if I have no chance of being able to buy the parts. Also, if they don't want to ship it or it will be too big of a headache for them, it should be stated in the ad also.

All that aside, I have made some really nice deals with fellow barners like Kriswellnk, it just shocked me that it happened to me twice in one week.

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Twice now I have found parts on the Fordbarn swap site that I have been looking for for a long time, only to have the seller Flake after confirming that he had received my payment and was shipping them to me. The story usually goes something like this:
"I packaged the part to ship and set it in the back of my pickup, but forgot to close the tailgate, so on the way to the shipper, it must have bounced out the back and got lost. Here's your money back"

Obviously (to me) they either got a better offer or got seller's remorse, because I've heard it more than once. Some people have no shame.

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criswellnk, (Joe)

Thanks for the kind remarks.

Ron Rude

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I have also had this happen a couple of times lately, told the guy I would take the item and even made arrangements to have it picked up and he emails me later and says no longer available. So I look back at the ad and I see a guy says pm sent and remember his user name, he had tried to snipe me before, jumping in after the deal and offering more money. All I can say is if you're selling to the highest bidder there's a site for that and it's full of scum bag snipers.

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Now that made me LOL. I wish I was following him when his parts bounced out the back of his pickup.

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I listed some parts for sale a month or so ago and got a number of replies from across the country. Since this was my first attempt at selling on FordBarn I hadn't really thought through the logistics of getting paid and shipping the parts. I realize now that I should have been better prepared before I tried to sell the parts online.

Anyway, I did ask for zip codes so I could check shipping costs. In the mean time, someone local showed up and offered me the full asking price in cash on the spot. I felt bad for the guys who had already expressed an interest but it was much easier make the local deal.

I wrote back to those involved and explained the situation. One buyer was very understanding, the other a little less so. I think the most important thing for both the buyer and the seller is to be honest about what's going on and let the other party no. There's no excuse for not writing back.

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CT50F1, that is exactly what I am thinking. I would be way more understanding if comunication was used. I think letting people know where they stand when you are selling something is key to good business and makes good friendships.

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Maybe a percentage donation from sold parts can be made to Fordbarn to keep it up and going????????

It would only be right as the swap section is free and it seems to bring a lot of buyers to the sellers.

I think this was done on the old Fordbarn site.

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The snipers aren't the scum bags. They are just playing the game. I often get sniped and outbid, but as long as I put in my top bid that I was willing to pay for a part, that's all that matters. Hopefully another part will come along. I always wait until the last few seconds to throw in my bid. That way I don't get caught up in some bidding frenzy and I also seem to have a better chance of winning the bid. I've gotten some bad deals on ebay and a lot of shipping damage by the post office, and even packages lost in the mail, so I don't do much ebay anymore. Swap meets are the safest way to buy parts, but even then there are times I didn't check the part over carefully enough and wind up with junk. And three times I'd pay for the part and say I'm comming back later with a cart to get it and the seller has left with my money, so be careful about leaving parts.

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Snipers aren't bad at all. An item is for sale, It is a week away until the end of the auction. You set your maximum $ you want to pay for the item and the program does the rest. You don't have to be sitting at the computer as the auction ends either. You could be visiting grandma or at the movies.... If someone has bid or bids higher via their snip program they get the item. It's that simple so what is the problem?

Same way if I'm at an auction in person. I always set the price I want to pay and NEVER go over that price. Don't make it a personal thing if someone out bids you. If you went to the price you wanted to pay to and someone else won it than be happy and move to the next item you want to purchase.....

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I was trying to make the point that Ebay is where the snipers belong and are all part of doing business there. On here and the HAMB it's deals between hobbyists, you set your asking price and someone says they'll take it that should be the end of the story. But some feel compelled to make a higher offer to the seller after the deal has been struck and some sellers don't have the integrity to stand by their deal and take the higher offer and fabricate some sort of excuse for the original buyer. That's what I mean by snipers on here. I've been on both ends of it but have never taken another offer after someone said they would take it. My whole point being if you want to sell it to the highest bidder go to ebay with the rest of the crooks.

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The social art of being tactful and honest is dying out with the computer age. I's slowly returning to the stone age where the guy who wields the club first and best gets the scrap of food.

Kerby

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Dang, Doodl, tell how you really feel about the ebay people. you sound bitter to me.

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Naw, I love 'em. Especially the ones that are on here begging for that rare part and two weeks later it's on ebay for twice what you sold it to them for.

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In reading throuh the more recent posts on this thread I would like to ask Doodlrodz a couple of questions.

Because I make the choice to bid as close to the end of an auction listing as I can, why does that make me a scum bag?

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Criswellnk, Sorry if I offended you, I apologize. I'm obviously just not a big fan of the auction site.