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nomadpsd 04-15-2020 10:52 AM

CAD Model of Model A Engine
 

Hi Guys,

Thought I'd share what I have been working on. This started out as a way to model some accessories I've been thinking about and I got a little carried away. I got to a point where I decided to just model the whole engine. These are renderings of the CAD model I have created. Dimensionally, it is fairly accurate. It is Modeled in Solidworks.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...389bcc17_c.jpgStock Engine 11 by nomadpsd, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e436fcab_c.jpgStock Engine 14 by nomadpsd, on Flickr

Roger V 04-15-2020 10:54 AM

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Impressive!

Ruth 04-15-2020 10:56 AM

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Very nice! I wish my engine looked that good!

30 Closed Cab PU 04-15-2020 11:01 AM

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Really awesome. Top picture -There appears to be a random piece of fan belt coming off the bottom of the fan pulley going over the to side of the motor. Reminds me of M.C Escher prints. The piece routes in front of the fan belt, but looks like it is going to the side of the motor.

nomadpsd 04-15-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 30 Closed Cab PU (Post 1874744)
Really awesome. Top picture -There appears to be a random piece of fan belt coming off the bottom of the fan pulley going over the to side of the motor. Reminds me of M.C Escher prints. The piece routes in front of the fan belt, but looks like it is going to the side of the motor.

What you're seeing is the fan blade.

30 Closed Cab PU 04-15-2020 11:11 AM

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:( Ok, thanks, my brain can sometimes work in ways that even baffles me.

Joe K 04-15-2020 11:32 AM

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Very nice. Even the "reflections" seem spot on.



Joe K

BRENT in 10-uh-C 04-15-2020 01:04 PM

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Very nice. Can we purchase a DWX file of this from you??

Art Newland 04-15-2020 01:16 PM

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Files to 3D print would be awesome.

nomadpsd 04-15-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Art Newland (Post 1874816)
Files to 3D print would be awesome.

I've thought about that. Some of the detail would need to be taken out though. What scale would you be interested in?

briphaeton 04-15-2020 02:46 PM

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I would be interested in scale of 1/5, I would like to machine a scale model a engine.
Thanks Brian

ryanheacox 04-15-2020 08:38 PM

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Damn, that is impressive. I wanted to do the same thing but it's a bit above my abilities. Does the inside look as good as the outside? Also how many parts in the assembly?

DBrer 04-15-2020 09:58 PM

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That is outstanding, nice job thats way above my level.

burner31 04-15-2020 10:43 PM

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Good God that is sweet...how do you young'ins do that?
I made it the background on my desktop...thanks.

Good job

Dan McEachern 04-16-2020 12:03 AM

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As someone who uses SW daily- very nice job!

History 04-16-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Newland (Post 1874816)
Files to 3D print would be awesome.

NICE ART! See what I did there?

Super nice art!!!

old31 04-16-2020 07:30 AM

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WOW. Your work is impressive.

McMimmcs 04-16-2020 07:46 AM

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Some people amaze me and you are one of those people. Outstanding job !

77Birdman 04-16-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by McMimmcs (Post 1875164)
Some people amaze me and you are one of those people. Outstanding job !

This kinds stuff blows my mind!!!! I am a contractor and started drafting blueprints when I was in my early teens many years ago. I tried cad programs when they first started to gain popularity and couldn't get a straight line! Theres a free program that a lot of people use to draw (cant remember the name now), I downloaded that and tried and failed. I am strickly a pencil and paper kinda guy.
If you dont mind me asking, what is your profession? I would surmise graphic artist?

nomadpsd 04-16-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanheacox (Post 1875008)
Damn, that is impressive. I wanted to do the same thing but it's a bit above my abilities. Does the inside look as good as the outside? Also how many parts in the assembly?

Here is the Cylinder Block.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...88165450_c.jpgModel A Cylinder Block by nomadpsd, on Flickr

nomadpsd 04-16-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 77Birdman (Post 1875177)
This kinds stuff blows my mind!!!! I am a contractor and started drafting blueprints when I was in my early teens many years ago. I tried cad programs when they first started to gain popularity and couldn't get a straight line! Theres a free program that a lot of people use to draw (cant remember the name now), I downloaded that and tried and failed. I am strickly a pencil and paper kinda guy.
If you dont mind me asking, what is your profession? I would surmise graphic artist?

No, I'm not a graphic artist. I am a design engineer in the automotive aftermarket. I design 4wd related components. This is a functional engineering model. Solidworks has built in rendering software that lets me make it look more realistic.

lavalley.scott 04-16-2020 10:42 AM

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Absolutely amazing!!! I've been using SW for 10+ years, I'm not even close to being able to do something like that. Did you 3D scan each part to give you point cloud to model around?

Jeff/Illinois 04-16-2020 10:45 AM

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Very, very nice! Well done!

barry022 04-16-2020 11:38 AM

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nomadpsd, did you use the Ford Engineering prints to construct the components, or did you reverse Engineer the parts by measuring them?

nomadpsd 04-16-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by barry022 (Post 1875282)
nomadpsd, did you use the Ford Engineering prints to construct the components, or did you reverse Engineer the parts by measuring them?

Mostly Reverse Engineered. I measure and use lots of pictures. Here are a few overall for reference.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...52117cf1_c.jpgEngine w-Drawing by nomadpsd, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...59a0aae6_c.jpgEngine w-Drawing 2 by nomadpsd, on Flickr

barry022 04-16-2020 06:50 PM

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nomadpsd, have you applied the animation feature to the solid model? If so, do you think you can make a youtube video available?

Harpkatt 04-16-2020 07:26 PM

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This is so good. I'm interested to know what parts you are designing.

Bill Cilker 04-16-2020 11:00 PM

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Very nicely done.

KGBnut 04-18-2020 05:28 PM

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That is very impressive.

nomadpsd 04-29-2020 09:37 AM

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Here is a shot of the internals and a couple section views.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1dbc83f7_c.jpgEngine Internals by nomadpsd, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e690e0af_c.jpgEngine Cutaway, Right by nomadpsd, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...98c6b069_c.jpgEngine Cutaway, Front by nomadpsd, on Flickr

Roxo 04-29-2020 10:05 AM

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Great stuff, Thanks for sharing.

30 Closed Cab PU 04-29-2020 10:17 AM

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Wow - Super nice.

JoeCB 04-30-2020 12:27 PM

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That's beautiful, nice work! From an "old school" guy (remember linen and India ink ?) that kind of rendering seems like magic.

Joe B

Hotrodfil 05-02-2020 08:48 PM

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Excellent - Solid Edge user myself. Don't think work would be too impressed if I started modelling Model A parts...

Joe B - vellum and Rotring pens when I started.

Nasukau 08-18-2022 12:06 AM

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@nomadpsd
Did your model ever get converted for 3D printing? I sent you a message.

Thanks,
Denny

TomInCologne 08-18-2022 01:23 AM

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Every Day Autodesk Inventor user here.


Wow, great, outstanding job. I would love to get my fingers and mouse pointer on the Step-files. Are you thinking about making them available by sharing or selling?

nkaminar 08-18-2022 06:08 AM

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Nomad, I used SolidWorks for years to design manufacturing equipment so I know how much work you put into your model. Very impressive.

Terry Burtz did a similar SolidWorks model to design his engine. He modeled the cores for the casting using SolidWorks and gave them to the foundry. The model was also used to machine all the surfaces that needed machining using computer aided machining.

gdmn852 08-18-2022 12:25 PM

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That is impressive, I did a lot of 3 d machining prototype work before retiring,We used Pro E was a good design tool, but not so much for machine operations.Biggest problems we would encounter was that if the model wasn’t defined in high tolerance, you would get poor machined surfaces.

Benson 08-18-2022 01:22 PM

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In 1983 I left the Computer repair business (NOT the tiny PC but IBM mainframes) to work at a small company that made small Plastic Injection Molded parts.

These molding machines were multiple cavity molds to make more parts with each machine cycle.

Anyway the guys had been working on one multi cavity mold for almost a year and were about ready to start machining the mold with a 4 spindle CAM milling machine.

Art Woodward was working out final bugs in the mechanical drives for the ejector pin cams and water cooling for the mold to eliminate warpage of parts when the mold opened to eject the parts.

The Graphtec 2 megabtye CPU had an IBM 3330 200 Megabyte disk drive and we backed up the data a few times a day to an IBM 3420 clone 1/2 inch tape drive ( before 3480 Square Tape drives really caught on).

One Monday morning when Mark started up the Graphtec machine the screen was totally BLANK ... All of the work was GONE! Nothing!

Went to the backup tape and loaded it on to the 3330 disk.

After Machine IPL the same problem!

Mark was trying to figure out what to next when he noticed one small dot (1 or 2 pixcels wide) in the center of the CRT display.

After some discussion somebody suggested to try Zooming IN by 1000 times in that Dot.

The dot got larger but was still just a large dot...

How about trying to Zoom 1000 times again?

Then the whole job appeared on the CRT !!

Some how the whole job got Zoomed down to 1,000,000 times.

That was a case where "Thinking outside the box" really paid off".

After that we did many more backups, tested each version on a spare disk drive after backup was complete and kept Multiple generations of backups.

This was in the days where disks had a removable disk pack that mounted on the spindle)

Gene F 08-20-2022 11:42 AM

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Impressive. I have a 3-d printer, that is a small one, just to get someone started. I have never used it. Mine you load your file onto a USB, attach it to the printer, go into the LED screen and print from there...I guess.

I'd like to learn how to do it, to make novelties for my desk, small pars for my car like visor clips, ashtray knobs. This seems like welding - not that hard but you need a buddy to work with you a bit to get you going.


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