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Krylon32 12-21-2019 12:01 PM

Junior Johnson Passes On
 

Saw over on the HAMB where Junior Johnson passed away yesterday. He was a great man who raced a few flatheads. He will be missed.

cas3 12-21-2019 02:09 PM

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hamb info here https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...today.1177887/

OldFordFan 12-25-2019 11:25 AM

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Junior Johnson was my favorite racer of the 1960's. He will be missed.

Kube 12-25-2019 12:27 PM

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Junior was a great racer. A great man? Well, judging by his seriously bad criminal record that went well in to his rather recent past, well, a "great man"???

skidmarks 12-25-2019 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1834800)
Junior was a great racer. A great man? Well, judging by his seriously bad criminal record that went well in to his rather recent past, well, a "great man"???

Which Jr Johnson?

Kube 12-25-2019 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by skidmarks (Post 1834813)
Which Jr Johnson?

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cas3 12-25-2019 02:35 PM

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"say it aint so!"

Kube 12-25-2019 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 1834830)
"say it aint so!"

I was very shocked. I figured he'd learned his lesson when arrested for boot legging booze when he was younger. Guess it was in his DNA - huh?

30-9 12-25-2019 04:21 PM

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God rest his soul

petehoovie 12-25-2019 04:30 PM

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https://external-content.duckduckgo....3D1&f=1&nofb=1


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harvest 12-25-2019 04:34 PM

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J.J. - legend in the hills and flats. true rock and roller... R.I.P.

Fordors 12-25-2019 06:25 PM

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Junior was a lot of things, but I seriously doubt he was involved with meth. Is there proof, or at least a link to this insinuation?

randy993 12-25-2019 07:31 PM

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Junior was right popular in the Wilkesboro NC area. Up until the last few years the local news would do a story about him every once in a while. Was truly one of the first Nascar pioneers.

OldDad 12-25-2019 08:10 PM

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There is a German expression, "ins Fett getreten" that I think applies here. Stepped in some grease (and tracked it all over the place).

Oops, or source, but gawd either way!?!

Calls for a "bootleg turn" I think. I have great respect for both Junior Johnson and Kube . . .

Anyway, there was a fascinating post a few years back about the suspension modifications used back in the day on those '40 coupes that were used for running moonshine. Don't remember if it was here or on the hamb, but involved four houdaille shocks on the rear, and a stiffer spring, as I recall.

The old man worked at Blair's speed shop back then, and told me they would build full-house flatheads and ship them out to the great Southeast.

Some more hearsay for you!

Kube 12-25-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordors (Post 1834880)
Junior was a lot of things, but I seriously doubt he was involved with meth. Is there proof, or at least a link to this insinuation?

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Fordors 12-25-2019 10:24 PM

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I see you have deleted your mention that “it was all over the news some time ago”, but a number of Google searches show nothing even remotely like a meth arrest. Sorry, but I think this deserves a retraction, not simply a deletion.

skidmarks 12-25-2019 10:58 PM

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The only criminal offense is from the 50s and bootlegging.

There is a Charles "jr" Johnson that had a bunch of criminal stuff involved in a company called Purchase Pro.

I think the 2 got confused

petehoovie 12-25-2019 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by skidmarks (Post 1834923)
The only criminal offense is from the 50s and bootlegging.

There is a Charles "jr" Johnson that had a bunch of criminal stuff involved in a company called Purchase Pro.

I think the 2 got confused



See > https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article233654327.html

OldDad 12-26-2019 02:57 AM

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Well, best course of action is to disregard or delete this thread, and head over to the hamb if you want to hear about Junior Johnson's life and legacy.

Has more to do with "what I did on my lunch hour" and the Moonshine Festival than reality.

This kind of stuff (and "what I did on my lunch hour") is why I mostly lurk and rarely post.

petehoovie 12-26-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDad (Post 1834901)
There is a German expression, "ins Fett getreten" that I think applies here.

ins Fett getreten: He dropped a brick
He really put his foot in it!
Open mouth, insert foot....

Kube 12-26-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordors (Post 1834919)
I see you have deleted your mention that “it was all over the news some time ago”, but a number of Google searches show nothing even remotely like a meth arrest. Sorry, but I think this deserves a retraction, not simply a deletion.

Not everything is within the realm of Google.
I should have left the man to rest in peace. I didn't (I was wrong) and for that reason retracted my comment to allow a few their time to grieve in their own way.

JimNNN 12-26-2019 02:06 PM

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He was an important historical figure in NASCAR. I was a fan of his in some ways, not so much in other ways, but I'll always acknowledge that he was probably the most culturally significant NASCAR driver of my lifetime. Many good thoughts go out to his family and friends.

Bob NH 12-27-2019 06:08 PM

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I have a son who lives in Mooresville and he sent up a couple of bottles of legal "Junior's best". He said try it but I never have. Still sealed on the shelf along with a small bottle of "Bubba's" hot sauce. I think of it as a nice collectable for whatever. Did see the 63 Chevrolet in the NASCAR museum at Charlotte some time ago. No point in even bothering with NASCAR anymore when you know who the winner is going to be every week !

Mart 12-27-2019 07:23 PM

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I met him at Goodwood. Nice guy, he signed my programme.

Also met Smokey Yunick and Ak Miller at the same meet.

Mart.

petehoovie 12-27-2019 07:37 PM

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halls of fame

Junior Johnson leaves a lasting legacy in NASCAR’s history

Jim O'Clair on Dec 26th, 2019 at 4:00 pm

See > https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2019/1...ign=2019-12-27

Ken/Alabama 12-27-2019 08:49 PM

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Junior served 11 months of a two year sentence for unpaid taxes on illegal whiskey in 1956. He was caught at his daddy’s still. Junior said “they never caught me a haulin”. He told me the fastest car he ever drove wasn’t a race car but a liquor car. He said it’s a lot different when you’re racing for some money and a trophy versus running for your life ..Glad I got to meet him.

petehoovie 12-27-2019 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama (Post 1835403)
Junior served 11 months of a two year sentence for unpaid taxes on illegal whiskey in 1956. He was caught at his daddy’s still. Junior said “they never caught me a haulin”. He told me the fastest car he ever drove wasn’t a race car but a liquor car. He said it’s a lot different when you’re racing for some money and a trophy versus running for your life ..Glad I got to meet him.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1577497738
He served only 11 months of that sentence before being released, and later received a presidential pardon for his crime, from Ronald Reagan in 1986.

40 Deluxe 12-28-2019 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie (Post 1835414)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1577497738
He served only 11 months of that sentence before being released, and later received a presidential pardon for his crime, from Ronald Reagan in 1986.

What about all the other guys that were convicted of the exact same crime? Why weren't they pardoned as well ??!

russcc 12-28-2019 06:39 AM

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If you want to hear the real story about Junior Johnson's career, read the Hot Rod magazine article about running shine. Google Willy Clay Call, and the HRM story will pop up. Running shine was a way of life in the South. Junior never got caught running, he was arrested when the revenuers busted his Father's still. One of the '40 coupes Jr. raced is in the N Wilkesboro NC heritage museum.

russcc 12-28-2019 07:06 AM

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The HRM article is Moonshine Runners & The Cars they Drove. This a photo of Junior and his good friend Willie Clay Call who Jr. drove for.

raceron1120 12-28-2019 07:16 AM

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I met him several times mostly at tracks as a fan, last time was probably at Bristol or Martinsville. But most memorable was in the early 90s when Bill Elliott was driving for him. I stopped by his shop in Ingle Hollow. When I got there, Junior was out in the pasture with some cattle. I talked with Mike Beam, he gave me a couple of used tires from the #11 car. Junior came into the office before I left, got a few photos. He seemed very down to earth.

Ken/Alabama 12-28-2019 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe (Post 1835449)
What about all the other guys that were convicted of the exact same crime? Why weren't they pardoned as well ??!

Good question! My Grandfather served a year and a day for the same crime, twice!

petehoovie 12-28-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by russcc (Post 1835473)
The HRM article is Moonshine Runners & The Cars they Drove. This a photo of Junior and his good friend Willie Clay Call who Jr. drove for.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1577534784

petehoovie 12-28-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama (Post 1835487)
Good question! My Grandfather served a year and a day for the same crime, twice!


Was your Grandfather a Democrat?...;)

Lanny 12-28-2019 12:41 PM

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I'm pretty sure that Jr. was pardoned (years after his release) from Federal Prison,
was because he turned his life around in such of profound way, head and shoulders
above what most would have accomplished.
He proved he was worthy of a FULL Pardon from the President. ;)







.

KiWinUS 12-28-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanny (Post 1835577)
I'm pretty sure that Jr. was pardoned (years after his release) from Federal Prison,
was because he turned his life around in such of profound way, head and shoulders
above what most would have accomplished.
He proved he was worthy of a FULL Pardon from the President. ;)







.

And you know “ALL” the others that served time for the same offense did not turn their lives around, so please give details of how you know this. I’m sure you also know that during the “Jr Johnson era” of NASCAR as a team owner there were many “kickbacks” allowing those with the most $$$ to have huge advantages over other competitors. I know this not from hearsay but from personal experience.
Cheers


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