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So sad! Yesterday, after trying NAPA with no luck, I went to the Carquest warehouse in Winchester, Va. to get the 3 bearings for an overdrive transmission. They had what I needed, 2 with outside snap ring an one without. The ones with the outside ring were National Brand made in China and the one without the ring was made in the USA, however, the US built bearing was in an older format box. I suggested to the clerk that it was obviously in stock for a while. They were sympathetic with me in my sadness that we can't even make a bearing in this country, anymore.
It's been coming for a long time. I replaced the ring gear carrier bearings on a '74 IH school bus years ago and it came from the factory with foreign bearings, but the replacement bearings I bought from an IH dealer were US made at that time. |
Re: So sad! I have noticed that Carquest is usually real good about having USA parts...I agree with you about Napa they seem to have more chinese parts. See if Carquest has your bearing and post result...I know I am curious if my observation is correct
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Re: So sad! Importing and exporting should be balanced, unfortunately with our indebtness to China, and cheap labor in most all of the other foreign countries, it is becoming more lopsided. I agree, it is truly sad, particularily when considering our state of the economy, unemployment, home foreclosures, etc. I am an American, I choose to buy products made by Americans, in American factories..if only I could. I apologize to this forum, in advance if I crossed over the line on politics.
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Re: So sad! I ordered a master cylinder from my local NAPA store about 2 months ago. When it was delivered to my store I noticed that it was made in China and refused to take it . They kept 10% of the price of the master cylinder from my deposit money for a restocking fee. I was had and I won't be had by them again as I refuse to buy any more NAPA parts. There are too many competitors to put up with that nonsence. Unfortunatly they sell Chinese parts also.
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I believe NAPA has two different lines or level of parts. One, off-shore that is one price and their "premium" or up-charge part that is of better quality and usually, US-made. I'm not 100% certain about this, but I believe that is what NAPA counter guy told me a few years ago when I was complaining about foreign-made junk parts. |
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Re: So sad! It is sad. I worked for a company that used millions of bearings every year in their product. About 10 years before I retired we were using most all Japanese bearings. As I was about to retire we were testing Chinese bearings to use in our products. By the time I actually retired all of our product was being made in China. We don't have jobs in this country because most of the manufacturing is now done off shore. In light of all that I still say God Bless America....... what's left of it.
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You need to find another NAPA. I'm lucky to have three that are close but in different directions. Not only will they swap stock with each other, but the region warehouse is within a days drive. They'll get not in stock part the following day and have never charges a restocking fee if I refuse a part. |
Re: So sad! If I remember correctly, the rear bearing in a 12volt Ford generator was made in Japan. This would be right before they changed to an alternator. This has been coming on for a long time, and we have to get used to it. All I ask is that outsourced parts are of a reasonable quality, many of them are.
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Re: So sad! Same with me & my NAPA. Great counter guys, they would NEVER charge me a re-stock fee. I've even had destroyed cores - no problem. Love NAPA.
On the other hand years ago I, just on a lark, stopped in a Auto-zone to see if by chance they might be able to order a set of plugs for my Model T. After voicing my need, the counter boy replied, "Who made that?" I left an uncomfortable moment pass and then simply turned and walked out. |
Re: So sad! I don't care where the part comes from. I just care about the quality of the part. After all, it's for a high quality FoMoCo automobile that was made back when everyone outside the USA still liked our products.
The best we can hope for is that the 3rd world will catch up enough in pay scale to even things out. It will then be profitable to make stuff in the USA again. Kerby |
Re: So sad! I had to get brake calipers for the 1999 explorer and noticed the boxs only said NAPA.
I guess they got tired of people wanting to buy usa stuff. Untill the enviremental wacks lighten up and our real estate prices come down we will not make anything.These guy buying parts over seas are just sitting back smoking cigars. |
Re: Good bearings You want good bearings? Well then, go to a bearing and power transission house. Someplace with 'Bearing' in the name would be a good place to start. Applied Industrial Technologies, Bearing Distributors, Kaman Industrial Technologies and Motion Industries all have quality bearings, as well as the Chinese junk.
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Re: So sad! I know this is off topic, I,m a stonemason here in New England ,currently working on a state bridge prodject. All 714 granite blocks I am setting, are from china ( 3600 lbs each) must still be cheaper than getting a hundred miles away in VTor NH GO FIGURE !:(
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Wow, really? Now that is just so freakin' sad. |
Re: So sad! Granite blocks from China..........Amazing!
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Re: So sad! I guess we will be buying our tombstones from China next. I am glad i already have mine. I thought it was a spokesman for Russia that said "WE WILL BURY YOU' Marv
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Re: So sad! ok now that i heard all this offshore bs how many of you guys own jap cars? they're full of offshore parts!!
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Re: So sad! I do not know about the rest of the guys but all i own is U.S.A. made full sized, but i do not know how many foreign parts are involved. I also own a Victory Motorcycle that is supposedly all american parts and U.S.A. made in Minnesota. Marv;)
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Just think.. if everyone was like me there wouldn't be "ONE" foreign car in this country. ;) |
Re: So sad! Most of the aftermarket stuff is Chinese because of the fierce competition between Napa, CarQuest, Advance and others. To make matters worse, I work for a Ford dealer in Parts and alot of the wheels on the 2010-2011 cars are Chinese! Ford recently did a replacement on some Edges because the chrome was peeling! Some of the electronic modules are made in China. Many of the seals and bearings are Chinese. Profit before quality. Gm has the same issues with thier parts.
Sad state of affairs we're in these days............... Barry 50 F-1 |
Re: So sad! NOS now means new off shore
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Re: So sad! As was said, if you search you can find good bearings, I went to Need Another Part Again, and was handed a pile of Chinese/ Mexico bearings, for one of my trucks. I gave them back and went to the local Gear and driveline store and specified made in USA, they had them all and they were cheaper, Although I would have still bought them if they were more expensive.
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I work in a company that welds up air frames.The fuselage cages are all 4130 chrome-molly steel tubing. Our supplier for the tubing is Charles Vogelsong of The Dillsburg Aeroplane Works in Dillsburg PA.He is the one supplier of 4130 drawn tubing in the USA. He sells to all the dealers,Nascar ,Government etc. He told me that all the 4130 tubing is now from China. This is so hard to believe. Travis |
Re: So sad! As we discuss this using a jap computer , no jap cars at my house either ...
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Well, made in China really but I understand your point. ;) |
Re: So sad! We export our steel to them they are the biggest consumer in Steel, so the parts will be produced there more and more. However, I believe some of the products being imported are of better quality from China compared to years ago from there, but doesn't mean everything is of quality. We can only hope that we have input to the spects of our goods being made and that some how we can quality control them periodically.
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Re: So sad! Don't forget this;The Chinese factories make what the United States companies order from China to the quality specifications made by these same United States companies. It is the money saved (made) by these United States companies that force the junk quality stuff on us that we don't have to buy.We do get some good quality parts from China imported by companies not so money hungry that they cut quality to make bigger profits. It's not the Chinese quality--It's us!!
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Re: So sad! We are our own worst enemy. But, on the other hand, US companies are interested in minimum investment and max profits. The number one force behind all this is the stockholder. They have to take care of the stockholders. We got a fuel pump at work today for a used car, a GM, and the pump is made in China. It says on the box made in Mainland China. The pump sells for over $400 list price. Not much is made here anymore. Ford buys electronics from Mexico, Phillipines and china. Truck mirrors come from Australia. Many plastic trim pieces come from Malaysia, India and Indonesia. Alot of parts come from who knows where and are assembled here. Ford Parts Cataloging is done in India, Many of the words used are of British spelling. Many of the illustrations are Japanese ( Mazda ). Cataloging is not what it used to be. Pics stink and descriptions are translations and misleading.
We asked for this and we're really getting it, without the aid of vaseline! Barry 50 F-1 |
Re: So sad! Guys we face the same issues here in australia. We have a campaign to buy australian owned and australan made to save local jobs. One by one our manufacturers are either going overseas to have products made or they are bought by super multi national companies. These mn companies dictate the world we live in i'm afraid.
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My Lincoln Town Car was assembled in Canada with parts made in Mexico.
Sure is "A FUR PIECE" from my first Lincoln, a 1958 Lincoln Continental Convertible. bill |
Re: So sad! How about importing granite from India as well and selling it from a US state and city known for it's granite.
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Re: So sad! not only will I not own/drive a Jap car I won't even buy from Napa anymore due to their Toyota Nascar sponsorship
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You have to be careful for some American cars are rebadged Foreign cars. Lower priced Fords and Chevys are famous for that. True, money comes back to a American company, but the wages went to off shore worker. Conversely, some Toyotas are more American made than Ford or Chevys. Crazy, but true. |
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