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mrtexas 03-21-2019 11:10 PM

No Lebaron Bonney, now where do I order?
 

I need some vinyl for my 41 woodie as well as matching hidem and some windlace for the 41. My 41 interior came from LB but a spring poked thru the back of the 3rd seat and the idiot upholsterers screwed up the windlace. Where can I get it now? Side curtain posts for my 37 woodie?

LB charged my credit card for the material March 5 and never shipped. I still need the stuff.

Bursonaw 03-21-2019 11:25 PM

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Here are a couple suggestions.

Side curtain posts can be obtained from Roy Nacewicz Enterprises http://fordscript.com/

As for the credit card charges, if you file a formal complaint with your credit card company, as part of consumer protection regulations, they should refund you money.

Hope this helps.

Regards


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95476 03-21-2019 11:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtexas (Post 1738848)
I need some vinyl for my 41 woodie as well as matching hidem and some windlace for the 41. My 41 interior came from LB but a spring poked thru the back of the 3rd seat and the idiot upholsterers screwed up the windlace. Where can I get it now? Side curtain posts for my 37 woodie?

LB charged my credit card for the material March 5 and never shipped. I still need the stuff.


For what it's worth, I called Cartouche this AM. I had a long conversation with a man named Dave.
He was aware of LeBaron Bonney's bankruptcy.
He said they are gearing up for increased business.
I inquired about kits for my current projects, a '34 Victoria and '34 2 Dr sedan.
He told me they do not have patterns for the Victoria but can supply complete a complete kit for my 2-Dr sedan.
Since I have some of the kit for my Victoria I asked about materials. He said they buy they material from the same places LeBaron Bonney did and should be able to supply what I need to complete the interior.
He is sending fabric samples and a catalog.

That being said, I have no idea about quality of the materials or quality of the workmanship. That is to be determined.
The price for the complete kit was considerably less than what I paid L/B.

I also paid by credit card but was told by Visa that it is doubtful that I can recover any of my deposits back since the orders were close to a year old.

Think positive, somehow I think someone will be able to fill the void left by the closing of LeBaron Bonney.

alanwoodieman 03-22-2019 07:15 AM

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at the very least Cartouche is trying. I knew that LB was having bad problems over a year ago, I had ordered a kit for a 40 wagon and the ship date kept being pushed back and the attitude of the employees were horrible-I vowed then I would never do business with them again. If you are located anywhere around Greenville, SC there is a small shop that just did the doors panels in a 40 coupe for me and they look really good.

Branded 03-22-2019 07:18 AM

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Folks I work part time for that restores Model As also spoke with Dave at Cartouche yesterday and are ordering 2 kits from them. They intended to go with Cartouche even before hearing of the LB bankruptcy because of several issues over the past few months with LB.

Royal Ryser 03-22-2019 05:26 PM

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The Cartouche stuff I have used was very high quality. My job involved only materials for others to install.

4dFord/SC 03-22-2019 05:51 PM

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Hmmm. Wonder how this will affect Cartouche's prices?

paul2748 03-22-2019 09:32 PM

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If you have deposits in LB made by a credit card and the CC company cannot reverse the charge you will have to file a claim with the bankruptcy court. Same with a cash deposit. See the other post on the LB bankruptcy for the court info.

95476 03-22-2019 09:46 PM

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How does one file a claim ?

DavidG 03-22-2019 10:27 PM

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There's case reference listed on the other thread on this topic. You can file on line through the federal bankruptcy court for Massachusetts.

95476 03-22-2019 11:26 PM

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Will do, thank you David.

JimG 03-23-2019 07:16 AM

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The case number is Massachusetts Bankruptcy Court Case 1:19-bk-10856 - LeBaron Bonney.

Rusty Junk Ranch 03-25-2019 01:58 PM

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I ordered a full kit for my 1932 Victoria last year. I havent installed it yet, I hope it fits. The workmanship on the carpet is very poor, I was surprised! They sent me a pattern for the front carpet & header panel for a Model A ???? I guess Iam lucky compared to some of you guy's !@#$%!@#$%

Angledrive 03-25-2019 02:47 PM

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I've done a lot of business with SMS. They supply most of the fabric for the vendors.

https://smsautofabrics.com/

DavidG 03-25-2019 03:31 PM

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SMS? It took nine months for them to reply to request to match a vinyl sample that I sent them. When they did reply, what they provided wasn't even remotely close plus they did not do me the courtesy of returning that which I sent them. Some customer service!

Willit Stop 03-25-2019 04:06 PM

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For what it's worth.....I ordered a headliner from Cartouche for my coupe and it fit perfectly.

Branded 03-25-2019 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angledrive (Post 1740140)
I've done a lot of business with SMS. They supply most of the fabric for the vendors.

https://smsautofabrics.com/

I had a horrible experience with SMS on a sewn carpet they made for me. My opinion they couldn’t make a door mat let alone a fitted carpet.

36 ford 03-25-2019 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 95476 (Post 1739254)
How does one file a claim ?


Call the customer service toll free number on the back of your card. Most customer service call centers are in the Philippines so you may have a little trouble communicating but tell them you are disputing a charge made on your card. They can find it quickly on their end and credit it back to your account.

95476 03-25-2019 08:43 PM

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I don't know about other cards but the people at Visa told me that since the transcation was close to a year old there is nothing they can do. Federal statutes limit the time frame to 60 days from the date of the transaction even thugh the transaction was never completed.

DavidG 03-25-2019 10:11 PM

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You file the claim with the bankruptcy court, not your credit card provider unless it is a recent transaction. Using the case number shown in #12 above, you can file your claim on line with the Massachusetts branch of the federal bankruptcy court.

Cecil/WV 03-26-2019 08:56 AM

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Cartouche products are A OK.

mrtexas 03-26-2019 06:59 PM

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Getting what I need from Macs(Cartouche)

V12Bill 03-27-2019 02:05 PM

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Ordered Cartouche kit for my 1939 PU. On first try the headliner was 2" short of filling the gap between the header and the headliner. I called, explained my problem and got a new headliner that fit within a few days. I would use Cartouche again if the new owners of Macs haven't " improved" everything.

blucar 03-28-2019 12:07 PM

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I have had three experiences with credit card purchases in the past where-in the company did not ship the merchandise after charging the card. I was within the window allowed to cancel the transaction which is somewhere between 60 & 90 days.
I find it to be very dishonest for a company to take money from customers when they are on the verge of going out of business just so they can improve their financial position at the expense of the customer..

I know, good intentions are like arm pits, everybody has them.

swoopNZ 03-28-2019 05:22 PM

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I have a 39 std coupe here in New Zealand presently being upholstered with Le Baron Bonney material that I bought about 10 years ago. Lucky I got it so long ago I guess.

Kelly Burns 11-13-2024 02:39 PM

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I know that I'm late to the party, but is there a source for '47 Ford Super Deluxe interiors?

Seth Swoboda 11-13-2024 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly Burns (Post 2349831)
I know that I'm late to the party, but is there a source for '47 Ford Super Deluxe interiors?

No. Not that I am aware of. At least not an interior with authentic materials, colors and fabrics. However, I know a man in St. Louis who just restored a '46 Mercury. I can get you his contact information and he can tell you where he got an interior. I beleive it was a custom job using materials he scourced himself.

richard crow 11-13-2024 08:52 PM

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geting back to your request for meteral try bill hurst in new nj

Kelly Burns 11-14-2024 03:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda (Post 2349857)
I can get you his contact information and he can tell you where he got an interior. I beleive it was a custom job using materials he scourced himself.

I would greatly appreciate that.

Kelly Burns 11-14-2024 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard crow (Post 2349888)
geting back to your request for meteral try bill hurst in new nj

Is here a member here?

Kelly Burns 11-14-2024 04:00 PM

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I've been watching FB groups, in the instance that if someone is taking out a good interior for a street rod project.

Kube 11-14-2024 06:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly Burns (Post 2350038)
Is here a member here?

It's Bill Hirsch and no, he doesn't sell material. He did at one time. Not anymore.

www.hirschauto.com

Kelly Burns 11-15-2024 03:54 PM

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Great!

Kelly Burns 11-15-2024 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kube (Post 2350076)
It's Bill Hirsch and no, he doesn't sell material. He did at one time. Not anymore.

www.hirschauto.com

Thank you!

52flthed 11-16-2024 10:29 PM

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SMS fabrics? I sourced out my own wool broadcloth overseas.

WarbirdPhotog 11-20-2024 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 52flthed (Post 2350573)
SMS fabrics? I sourced out my own wool broadcloth overseas.

Is that somewhere online you sourced that from? Looking for something for my 1940 Ford Deluxe still.

ThirstyThirty 11-21-2024 11:40 AM

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I am working on my Model A roadster's interior. I have a 'brand new' set of LB seats and new seat springs. still in the plastic 'bags' originally shipped to me in. have had them for quite some time... imo, very nice work!

TJ 11-21-2024 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WarbirdPhotog (Post 2351351)
Is that somewhere online you sourced that from? Looking for something for my 1940 Ford Deluxe still.

SMS Auto Fabrics Ph# 503-263-3535 They are in Canby, Oregon. www.smsautofabrics.com

52flthed 11-21-2024 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirstyThirty (Post 2351451)
I am working on my Model A roadster's interior. I have a 'brand new' set of LB seats and new seat springs. still in the plastic 'bags' originally shipped to me in. have had them for quite some time... imo, very nice work!

If you meant the wool broadcloth this is it; https://www.hainsworth.co.uk/collect...oth-interiors/


The Broadcloth has a specific "rub rating", industry term, not mine, that meets and exceeds standards for upholstery. I've had mine in my truck now for a few years no pilling or wear through. Very comfortable too as well it was less expensive that options offered by Cartouche at the time and this quality far exceeds that.

WarbirdPhotog 11-22-2024 07:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 52flthed (Post 2351563)
If you meant the wool broadcloth this is it; https://www.hainsworth.co.uk/collect...oth-interiors/

Thank you! I ordered a sample pack to see how it compares to my original 1940 upholstery sample fabric.

I did get a headliner from SMS Auto. They had sent me samples, and the headliner sample was a 90% match to the original 1940 sample. But the one they ended up sending me wasn't even close to the sample they sent. So I had them redo it, and it should be here in a few days.


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