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wildcat063 02-26-2019 02:53 PM

Alternative to anti-freeze to stop corrosion
 

Hello All
What alternatives is there instead of anti-freeze to run in a Model A to stop corrosion?

Glen in Hillman MI 02-26-2019 03:06 PM

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Water pump lube & anti rust from auto store.

wildcat063 02-26-2019 03:09 PM

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Can you provide me with the names of the products please. A person told me they run a cap fill of drill cutting compound, any one tried this ?

Purdy Swoft 02-26-2019 03:11 PM

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I do the same as Glen in post # 2 .

Mad Mac 02-26-2019 03:14 PM

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Neats-foot oil?

Charlie Stephens 02-26-2019 03:15 PM

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Please add your general location and email to your profile. The place I buy mine may not have a branch where you are located.

Charlie Stephens

Purdy Swoft 02-26-2019 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wildcat063 (Post 1730963)
Can you provide me with the names of the products please. A person told me they run a cap fill of drill cutting compound, any one tried this ?

I get mine at both Auto Zone and Advance Auto Parts . Several companies offer this product . Gunk is the first brand that comes to mind . The counter people are usually helpful . I ask for water pump lubricant . The kind that I use comes in small bottles for five or six dollars per bottle . It also does a good job of stopping sound of a a squeaky water pump seal .

30 Closed Cab PU 02-26-2019 03:55 PM

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If desiring to use distilled water - NAPA MAC's 1300


https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MCC1300


Has been frequently mentioned previously on the Barn, additionally I add a bottle of Red Line Water Wetter. Usually flush/backflush yearly.


As needed white vinegar or thermocure flush//backflush.


Winter storage drain water and fill with antifreeze, in spring drain antifreeze and save it for winter-reuse.

Synchro909 02-26-2019 03:59 PM

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I have been told by more than one person who all should know that cutting oil will turn to jelly in the cooling system so I don't use it. I use an american product which gives great lubrication, rust resistance and is compatible with all antifreeze additives, not that I use any of those.
It's sold here branded as "Cyclo" Anti Rust & water pump lube and is made by Cyclo Industries LLC in Florida. Unlike most other soluble oils, it does not attack the hoses either. If I rub my fingers together after dipping one intot he coolant, I can feel the oiliness. You might gather that I recommend this stuff. Has anybody else used it?

The Master Cylinder 02-26-2019 04:40 PM

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I have never heard of Cyclo products (before now). They have many different products lubrication and corrosion. Here is a link to what (i think) Synchro is referring to. http://cyclo.com/cyclo_product/anti-...p-lubricant-2/ I have no idea where to buy it. Everywhere I looked online it is Out of stock.

marty in Ohio 02-26-2019 04:50 PM

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For years I've used distilled water and Water Wetter from Autozone. This winter we had a new NAPA store open in town and I went in to see what they had. They didn't carry Water Wetter, but their product is called NAPA Kool. It comes in a 16 oz. bottle and the number is 4056. It's a little more expensive but I'll give it a try this summer.
Marty

Synchro909 02-26-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master Cylinder (Post 1731018)
I have never heard of Cyclo products (before now). They have many different products lubrication and corrosion. Here is a link to what (i think) Synchro is referring to. http://cyclo.com/cyclo_product/anti-...p-lubricant-2/ I have no idea where to buy it. Everywhere I looked online it is Out of stock.

Naturally, I too have no idea where you can buy this stuff over there. They have many products and I've used several of them. All have been as good as any I have tried. Their penetrating lubricant is also as good as any - better than most. It's called "Break Away".
Maybe it's easier to buy them here than in the country where they are made!:confused: Maybe an oportunity here for some enterprising barner?
At the bottom of the link posted by The Master Cylinder,there is a "Contact Us" for them.

wildcat063 02-26-2019 09:37 PM

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Thank you all for the replies. My thinking for the alternatives for Anti Freeze was to see if they don't cause the same gasket leakage issues as anti freeze. The Cyclo product is available in New Zealand, so I am keen to try.

160B 02-26-2019 11:04 PM

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I use a water soluble cutting oil, it Improves Wetting, Cleaning & Lubricating During Metal Cutting & Grinding; Prevents Rust & Corrosion.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/SLRSL2512

Kurt in NJ 02-26-2019 11:12 PM

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I have used antifreeze for the last 40 years--- what gasket leakage??

JoeCB 02-26-2019 11:14 PM

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I have used "water pump lube/anti rust" for years. For the last 10 - 12 years been using Sta -Lube brand Soluble Oil ( CRC No. SL2512) with good results. Says right on the label "For automotive and industrial cooling systems as a rust preventative". No jelling or hose problems to be seen. It is a soluble metal working oil, as far as I can tell it is the same stuff as the water pump lube/ anti rust except in much concentrated form. I believe that I purchased it at a NAPA store, came in a 1 quart jug.

Joe B

PS, just saw "160B's" post ...yep' that's the stuff!

Chris Haynes 02-26-2019 11:17 PM

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I use Water-less Coolant in my pressurized system.

Tom Wesenberg 02-27-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt in NJ (Post 1731140)
I have used antifreeze for the last 40 years--- what gasket leakage??

Exactly!
When something works, and works so great, I never understood the need to search for an alternative. Love my 50% antifreeze in all my vehicles.


Old antifreeze and drain oil make great mouse killers in the 5 gallon bucket mouse traps.

Gold Digger 02-27-2019 04:18 PM

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I don't understand the fuss about using something other than antifreeze. I've used mostly Preston antifreeze for 57 years and never had one problem. I knew a man that heard that kerosene was a good alternative to antifreeze for short term use being it would swell the hoses after sometime. He was losing water from somewhere and didn't want to keep adding antifreeze so he was using kerosene. this was in an old 35 ford log truck and he blew a head gasket and totally burned the truck with a load of stave bolts to the ground. I think antifreeze is still the best.

arnhemmer 02-27-2019 04:58 PM

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50% antifreeze for me no problem with gaskets for the last 5 yrs since engine rebuilt,(15000 miles. )

arnhemmer 02-27-2019 05:02 PM

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50 % antifreeze for me, no problems with gaskets since rebuild, (15000 miles.)

Shorty 02-27-2019 05:11 PM

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The key is to start with a clean cooling system including the engine. If nothing else, run distilled water with your choice of cooling system additive. For many years I have used Prestone in my Model A and my daily driver. The antifreeze contains antirust and lubricant. Prestone also makes just the additive if you don't want to run any type of coolant.

ModelAMike1930 02-27-2019 06:22 PM

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I use antifreeze in all of my vehicles its cheap and available everywhere.. I have never had a problem. I have been driving since 1953.

30 Closed Cab PU 02-28-2019 09:10 AM

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Perhaps wildcat is thinking of the GM/Dex-cool issues?


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news...m_dexcool.html


Most recommend the older "green" antifreeze which is the tried and true coolant for As. Green will not harm A radiators, hoses, head gaskets, waterpumps, etc.

Smooth_One 02-28-2019 09:48 AM

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I use Royal Purple Ice. 50/50 with green coolant and distilled water. Works great for me!
http://www.royalpurple.com/product/p...tem-optimizer/

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Smooth_One 02-28-2019 09:50 AM

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A lot of your Water pump builders will want you to run a coolant instead of just plain water for lubrication.
Just my opinion of course but I would run 50/50.

31Abone 02-28-2019 11:20 AM

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How about using cutting oil ?

Smooth_One 02-28-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 31Abone (Post 1731580)
How about using cutting oil ?


I think that's what a few guys already said they are using.

MAG 02-28-2019 12:28 PM

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Agree with Posts 15, 18,19 and 20. Been using Prestone LoTox and Sierra antifreeze for years in all three of my Model A's with no gasket leakage or foaming.

denniskliesen 02-28-2019 02:49 PM

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I’ve tried water wetter twice with distilled water and twice ended up draining it after it rusted. This last time I flushed a couple times and put in some evaporust for cooling system flushing for a few days. Refilled with distilled water and antifreeze. Problems now gone.


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