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Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 03:34 AM

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Pressed splash apron from Belgian 3 window, chromed brass insert from Spanish B400, German badge, English red badges, English dual temp gauge, US dual temp, English sidelights, crank hole with pressing, Spanish dash knob, English headlamp glass, German ivory handles, UK ashtray and handle...

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 03:52 AM

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More...Imp gals gauge (I am looking for one to buy!), Early single hood hooks, UK Cooper Stewart gauges (4 types), German dash knob, UK interior light, Model 14 sidelights

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 04:00 AM

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More...Model 14 bumper emblem, RHD column drop and foot rest, B400 mirror, RHD stop light switch, UK two piece steering wheel, French Jaeger speedo, German chassis stamp, radio, sport coupe parts, European chrome grille shell....and the best book ever to read about them all!!!!

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 04:17 AM

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Woodie tag, RPU dash, sport coupe top irons, UK Model B (left) & Model 14 steering wheels, RHD pedals, flat Depress Beam headlamp glass - for wartime use, UK 'petrol' gas gauge, UK sedan dash, raised louver hood sides, UK headlamp versus US (no Twolite stamp and screw adjuster to rear), UK commercial side lights (steel bowl not stainless / chrome as passenger)

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 06:00 AM

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Cutaway

Mart 08-30-2018 06:16 AM

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Thanks for compiling the pictures. could do with some of those parts myself.

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 07:09 AM

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A daft obsession Mart...and they aren't all mine!


...B400 / Vicky running board brackets, German Drauz body emblem, European rad cap (left), ash trays

Karl Wescott 08-30-2018 09:26 AM

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Nice collection, except the roadster door in group 2 looks suspiciously like a 1936.

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 09:41 AM

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Nice collection, except the roadster door in group 2 looks suspiciously like a 1936.



Thanks Karl, that's intriguing. I saved the image ages ago as the wood in mine is missing and planned on trying to replicate it using this pic.

rockfla 08-30-2018 09:45 AM

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Keith, very nice photo collection and even nicer of you to share it. Respectfully, I "think" that in your first group.....The blue "Deutsches" Ford oval wasn't used till late 1935 or 1936. I think you and I have talked before and that for 32 the (little further in the same grouping) Red Ford ovals were "most" likely appropriate. I believe there was a "Government Approval" attached to the use of "Deutsches Erzuicians" and Ford didn't attain that status until 1936 I believe???? Would like to find an "original" red one!!!!

uncle buck 08-30-2018 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl Wescott (Post 1669255)
Nice collection, except the roadster door in group 2 looks suspiciously like a 1936.



My thoughts too

uncle buck 08-30-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce-Addict (Post 1669266)
Thanks Karl, that's intriguing. I saved the image ages ago as the wood in mine is missing and planned on trying to replicate it using this pic.



Note the difference in the door latch. The Australian latch is designed more like a closed car latch and the 36 latch interlocks like a US 32-34 roadster latch. PM gearheadbill , I think he has several pictures of Australian phaeton wood saved on his computer.

uncle buck 08-30-2018 10:16 AM

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A daft obsession Mart...and they aren't all mine!



And I was ready to call you a show off.... LOL

DavidG 08-30-2018 10:31 AM

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Keith,


I agree with Karl that the door is a mid-35 through '36 phaeton-roadster door.


Great collection of photos and thanks for sharing them. I especially like the rare Model 14 items and confirmation that a commercial version of the '32 fender lamps existed like the commercial/truck version of cowl lamps in North America, both of which seem to be exceedingly rare.

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rockfla (Post 1669270)
Keith, very nice photo collection and even nicer of you to share it. Respectfully, I "think" that in your first group.....The blue "Deutsches" Ford oval wasn't used till late 1935 or 1936. I think you and I have talked before and that for 32 the (little further in the same grouping) Red Ford ovals were "most" likely appropriate. I believe there was a "Government Approval" attached to the use of "Deutsches Erzuicians" and Ford didn't attain that status until 1936 I believe???? Would like to find an "original" red one!!!!



Hi Robert, am sure you are right. It was this article years ago that set my interest but doesn't mean it was correct. If a red Ford script one that you are after let me know and will keep a look out for you.

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1669298)
Keith,


I agree with Karl that the door is a mid-35 through '36 phaeton-roadster door.


Great collection of photos and thanks for sharing them. I especially like the rare Model 14 items and confirmation that a commercial version of the '32 fender lamps existed like the commercial/truck version of cowl lamps in North America, both of which seem to be exceedingly rare.



Thanks David, Karl and Uncle Buck...good job I haven't braved making a start on replacing the wood on mine!

rockfla 08-30-2018 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce-Addict (Post 1669312)
Hi Robert, am sure you are right. It was this article years ago that set my interest but doesn't mean it was correct. If a red Ford script one that you are after let me know and will keep a look out for you.


Yes Please!!!! Obviously the nicer the better as you know where its destined for!!!

rockfla 08-30-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl Wescott (Post 1669255)
Nice collection, except the roadster door in group 2 looks suspiciously like a 1936.

Looks like the door from our 35 Aussie Ute as they are even shorter than the standard roadster doors!!!

deuce lover 08-30-2018 10:54 AM

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Thanks for all that Keith.I have had the red script ones from France and Australia.Being an old friend of Bob Drake he had asked me at one time what he could produce for the Street Rod market.I mentioned the red porcelain emblems that fit in the 32 bezel.He said he needed to have one to prove to Ford that it was genuine.Since he is under license to reproduce parts and that they were very particular about the Ford logo etc. I sent him the one from Australia that I had.That is how he started making the colored ones.

rockfla 08-30-2018 10:57 AM

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35 Aussie Ute door.

rockfla 08-30-2018 11:23 AM

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As for the "Red" Ford ovals I think (and so far) this is the only one known at this point but not 1932 or as relevant for this post.

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1669298)
Keith,


I agree with Karl that the door is a mid-35 through '36 phaeton-roadster door.


Great collection of photos and thanks for sharing them. I especially like the rare Model 14 items and confirmation that a commercial version of the '32 fender lamps existed like the commercial/truck version of cowl lamps in North America, both of which seem to be exceedingly rare.



David - the variations on English sidelights for one (short) year was incredible. The picture shows the variation on those that I have (and there likely are others). The first is a 'standard' passenger car one with stainless bowl and rim and glass that broadly matches the UK headlight, the second has a chromed steel bowl and rim, the third a commercial painted steel bowl and rim with a tight ribbed curved glass, the next same but with wide ribbed flat glass, the next a steel painted bowl with a stainless rim and finally a steel painted bowl and rim with a 'passenger type' glass. For interest have also included a picture of a Model A one against the '32 to show the size difference, the A being the larger.

DavidG 08-30-2018 11:54 AM

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Keith,


Thanks for the further elaboration on the '32 sidelights and their variations. To the best of my knowledge, the North American commercial/truck cowl lamps came in only one version which was with a plain steel black-painted body, black-painted die cast brackets, and everything else common with the passenger car version (which was also the version used on deluxe panel deliveries and late station wagons as standard equipment).

Deuce-Addict 08-30-2018 12:04 PM

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Below shows size and broad differences of UK sidelights to N American cowl lights...

alchemy 08-31-2018 10:44 AM

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Your pic of the door wood may be a 36, but the Aussie 32 doors were very similar. A local 32 restorer had an imported Australian roadster body that had most of the original wood still in it. It was soft/cracked, so he replicated US stamped steel panels as a replacement.

(Don't tell anybody, but he got tired of doing 100% restos and turned that body into an Ardun fired hiboy hot rod)

32dude 09-03-2018 05:56 PM

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32dude 09-03-2018 06:01 PM

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Sheldon My head hurts from reading this post. You know to much about these 32's. Good to see you are still at it. Ever in Texas come by. Bruce

DavidG 09-03-2018 06:25 PM

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Sounds like Deuce-Addict (Keith) and deuce lover (Sheldon) are being mistaken for one another.

mercman from oz 09-03-2018 08:01 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1535619677

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1536022348

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1536022348
As rockfla pointed out, the door (top photo) is off an open 1935/1936 Ford. He also correctly pointed out that the Roadster/Phaeton doors wee longer than the Roadster Ute. Please see pictures above showing the difference in length.

deuce lover 03-24-2020 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1670946)
Sounds like Deuce-Addict (Keith) and deuce lover (Sheldon) are being mistaken for one another.


Thought I'd bring this thread to the top as its interesting to the '32 purist.I don't have the knowledge as some others but have the passion for the 32 and its parts. Living in France and attending many swap meets here I have turned up some Euro deuce stuff. Here is a '32 French fuel gauge.It has the "P" (for plein)instead of "F" for full.Found a mint 32 speedo a few months ago.Couple yrs ago turned up a near mint 32 commercial rad cap.Not much left but stuff still out there if you dig deeper.Another dig find, '32 Imperial Gals gas gauge.Bezel is nickel plated instead of chrome as most I have seen.My research came up with that the British Empire used Imp Gals as a unit of measure.So maybe Canada,Australia,So Africa or India ?

DavidG 03-24-2020 06:41 AM

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Sheldon,


Neat finds!

rockfla 03-24-2020 08:54 AM

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Keith
Here is the cowl lights on our Cab. and they are "different" from the ones you posted both the base and the shape of the housing. They are more "pointed" on the rear and do not follow the shape of the headlight buckets. The base is also "different" than standard 32 even in the hole size and alignment pin!!! I'll have to get you better pictures of the back sides

35fordtn 03-24-2020 09:07 AM

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Sheldon,
I really like that speedometer!

Deuce-Addict 03-25-2020 10:29 AM

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Fuel gauge variants...

deuce lover 06-21-2020 09:51 AM

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I presume quite rare.RHD V8 engine pans

DavidG 06-21-2020 10:54 AM

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Second version for engines with the oil dipstick in the oil pan on the left side.

Newc 06-21-2020 05:37 PM

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Hi all; Gotta jump in here.. I sold my single pull latches when I found these: The two on the left with the odd bases are WW2 GM truck hood latches- over 500K trucks mfg'd with 2 latches each! The three on the right are WW2 Dodge trucks [WC Series]- using windshield hold-down latches- Seemingly identical to the '32 Ford without chrome! And for reference the bottom two are tired '32s . So, apparently the tooling was around Detroit for some time. Newc

Newc 06-21-2020 05:38 PM

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OOPs--- here are the photos Newc

DavidG 06-21-2020 06:09 PM

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Looking closely at those three on the upper right, their handles seem more depressed across the top than the version Ford used. It is actually a slight improvement as it permits your thumb to get a good purchase on the top of the handle to counter the tendency of the rest of your hand to tilt the latch forward as you lift up. That's why the later '32 T handle version is such a big improvement over the single pull version as all of your lifting force is directed upward and out rather than part way up and part way in, especially if the internal spring is in good shape. On a '32 hood side panel, the single pull latch is actually a pretty dumb idea. I have four NOS ones on one of my cars and they are a nightmare to use. I use a loop of cord around them so I can direct all of my pull upward. Or maybe I'm just getting old and weak.

rockfla 06-22-2020 07:27 AM

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Will get the "INST LIGHTS" knob as soon as possible


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